Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

[DNap4]

If the battery factory is being converted, what happens with any new battery issues? Where will the battery come from to replace any new issues? Or will any new battery issue result in total loss?

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[GDN]

This means @Ford Motor Company parts should be available til 2035...
S0 with our extended warranties til 2030, I guess I'll be dumping both trucks at the end of 2029.

Tag @GDN

I'll offer you $25 a piece now for them. I'll probably need the extra battery modules, and I can only imagine the price from Ford if they are available at all. I'm wondering how long these things (battery modules) will store on a shelf and how many they get built to supply us all with over the coming years?

Truly as good as the trucks drive, in 10 years they will start to fall by the way side, there will be a lot residual value in the batteries to supply those that still have drivable trucks or hell buy 2 to 3 old truck just for the batteries. You'd have the capacity for your house for a month, living off the grid. You just need a few panels to get them charged with.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

When this truck comes out, people will be all over it. Maybe not some current Lightning owners here, but you wait and see, they will sell good. There are lots of people who didn't buy Lightning because of a lack of range, they'll love the new truck. That is what Ford sees. I personally rather not have a gas generator but there are more of them than us. (Hybrid/EREV vs Lightning owners) You can't make money from something that doesn't sell good. We can all sit around and talk about how great our trucks are to us, but that's just it, to us, the few. Battery tech needs to catch-up first.

 

[GDN]

It's all just a big experiment by Ford that failed. They had a plan to do it right, but needed to be first to market when Tesla announced the Cybertruck. They cobbled this truck together with many part from ICE. They teamed up with a sub par battery manufacture, they took 8 to 10 year old technology (all of the 12 volt workings of the ICE truck from Sync to 60+ modules through the truck). They just thought they needed to be first and get something on the road.

If they'd finished the T3 work, designed it as an EV needed to be designed, stole many of Tesla's ideas, created a new nameplate to avoid the traditional dealers that didn't want EV's, become a little bit of something that resembles a SW company, and the list goes on, then they might have a product today that was taking the world by storm (but they wouldn't even sell to the rest of the world who wants an EV.)

They didn't and they changed the direction of the ship too many times, and it just sunk on them vs floating and becoming a battleship.

So here we are. If Elon were really on his toes, tomorrow he would announce the truck that his designers likely already have designed that looks like the traditional truck on a frame, that will pull, but has the Tesla battery, tech, motors. Ford would never catch that.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

After many generations of our family construction business buying exclusively Ford trucks, this is the end of the road. Our lightning test truck has been such a great success that we made the decision that all our trucks will be bev from this point forward. Ford marketing is what killed this truck. Nothing else. There is an enormous market of contractors such as ourselves that never go past 100miles per day. Ford failed to educate this market. Although Ford thinks the best path is to go backwards our company will not follow that path. Good luck with your erevs.

I do recall Ford talking about Lightning range for work trucks, the problem was so many naysayers no matter what.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

It's all just a big experiment by Ford that failed. They had a plan to do it right, but needed to be first to market when Tesla announced the Cybertruck. They cobbled this truck together with many part from ICE. They teamed up with a sub par battery manufacture, they took 8 to 10 year old technology (all of the 12 volt workings of the ICE truck from Sync to 60+ modules through the truck). They just thought they needed to be first and get something on the road.

If they'd finished the T3 work, designed it as an EV needed to be designed, stole many of Tesla's ideas, created a new nameplate to avoid the traditional dealers that didn't want EV's, become a little bit of something that resembles a SW company, and the list goes on, then they might have a product today that was taking the world by storm (but they wouldn't even sell to the rest of the world who wants an EV.)

They didn't and they changed the direction of the ship too many times, and it just sunk on them vs floating and becoming a battleship.

So here we are. If Elon were really on his toes, tomorrow he would announce the truck that his designers likely already have designed that looks like the traditional truck on a frame, that will pull, but has the Tesla battery, tech, motors. Ford would never catch that.

' stole many of Tesla's ideas ' That's not a good idea. Ford is not going to build a counterfeit Tesla. It would have failed even worse.

 

[GDN]

I've had a long day and just got caught up on this news and looked at my stock holdings. Was this also what gave TSLA another $16 jump today - they may have just hit a new all time high. I don't own any Ford, but I'm sure theirs took the same jump after a $19.5 B write off.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

I've had a long day and just got caught up on this news and looked at my stock holdings. Was this also what gave TSLA another $16 jump today - they may have just hit a new all time high. I don't own any Ford, but I'm sure theirs took the same jump after a $19.5 B write off.

I have Ford stock. It sank a bit. Ford -$1.10

 

[CJLightning]

While I am excited that this version will
Be made available, will there be trade-in incentives with Lightning l’s? This was my deciding point between the Lightning and whether RAM would’ve released their EREV. The Lightning had been fantastic for me but an EREV is the preferred version, and 700mi range is insane.

 

[MichaelCA]

I think what also swayed corporate was the positive press about Ram's frankenstein REV truck with buzz words like "alleviating range anxiety" so corporate thought the REV Lightning would be an easy win. They get to cut cost with cheaper, less dense LFP batteries AND attract the on the fence customers who have "range anxiety." However, they neglect the fact that they totally just back stabbed us, the early adopters of the Lightning.

 

[ChippewaBarr]

Am I crazy or can someone correct me if I'm wrong...?​

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As far as I understand EREVs, the generator charging the battery is literally only used to charge the battery - as in it cannot be used to move the vehicle or provide any other traditional engine functions... right?​

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If this is the case, why are so many hung up on maintenance?​

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From my possibly related experience with an actual generator used to power my house in an outage - the only maintenance has been changing the oil, filters and new spark plugs...and this thing is almost 30 years old...and has seen zero professional servicing lol.​

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I get not being pure BEV is a bummer (I'm disappointed too) but I don't think an EREV will be the stealership maintenance monster people are making it out to be...​

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Ford has made a ton of unforced errors with the Lightning for sure, but I'm interested in seeing where this goes. I just hope they've taken ALL the feedback from the Lightning to heart​

 

[krusherVA]

At least I can now go back to not owning a Ford like I was fine with for 32 years. When this bricks (maybe from the general ridicule of those saying “I told ya so!”, Lol) I’ll move on to another brand.

 

[Dimitri]

Having owned BMW i3 with range extender, I believe that is NOT the answer. One of the beautiful things about EV is the very clean no maintenance technology. I hate maintaining a generator, am thrilled to have my Lightning as a backup power source. I have always owned Ryobi battery powered outdoor tools in order to avoid dealing with gas mowers blowers trimmers chainsaws etc. Ii would not want my Lightning to have a range extender. I would want Ford and the Federal government to invest more in reliable, cheap coast to coast charging network.. There lies the answer.
When Ford sold the Model T, retailers saw the opportunity to sell gasoline and built the gas stations to support the new drivers. Horse breeders did not buy off our government to stop them, nor did hay bailers spew anti- ICE propaganda on social media. Today those same gas companies that made the model T a success, along with oil exporting oligarchs are sabotaging the marketability of superior technology of the Lightning to save their profit margins through their political influence. Luckily this is not the case in Europe and Asia to the same degree so Ford will continue to build EVs to satisfy those markets and we will enjoy some of those benefits.

 

[LUXMAN]

I'll offer you $25 a piece now for them. I'll probably need the extra battery modules, and I can only imagine the price from Ford if they are available at all. I'm wondering how long these things (battery modules) will store on a shelf and how many they get built to supply us all with over the coming years?

Truly as good as the trucks drive, in 10 years they will start to fall by the way side, there will be a lot residual value in the batteries to supply those that still have drivable trucks or hell buy 2 to 3 old truck just for the batteries. You'd have the capacity for your house for a month, living off the grid. You just need a few panels to get them charged with.

HA! I know you are good for the $50 so I will hold onto that offer.

I am not worried about parts availability for the next few years. I've got 4.5 years left on the warranties and my mileage usage wont beat those time limits, so I and most others have time to evaluate the market and decide if we can bail with at least part of the shirt we lost on residual value we lost already.

That said, you @GDN know how much I and @TexasGardeningGirl love ours trucks and will continue to drive them. I would not even worry about it if @Ford Motor Company had announced the same thing yesterday but with a new BEV to replace it.

The only thing I am concerned with is availability of the Batteries and to a lesser extent the chargers (past experience) and specific Lightning modules.
The aftermarket repair and parts has not really developed outside of a few specialty shops and Hobbyists. And with none around here really in Oil Country, one has to look at really so you don't end up with a brick in your garage. I guess worse case you could make a bunch of money by slowly parting it out on eBay.

 

[WXman]

Why did you buy a lightning in the first place if this is how you feel?

I didn't buy it. I leased it. Because I'm wise.

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