Return to Sport not returning

[brirr76]

Return to Sport mode question pops up as usual when booting up my 24 Flash and I select YES. When I go to look it's still in Normal mode. I then switch it to Sport and I'm good until the next boot cycle.

Worked fine until the last update of 25.2.8.5.

Anyone else notice this recently that uses Sport mode?

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[RLXXI]

Seems to be hit or miss with mine, sometimes I get in and it's still on sport, sometimes I get the pop up so I have no idea what's going on, ghost in the machine perhaps lol.

 

[ScubaSteve_TheReal]

Yes frustrating as I’m a in sport mode kinda person 24/7 lol. Sometimes my boot splash screen takes so long to come up, that the option to return to sport is already gone, then I have to go to the main settings again and select sport …it’s a hit and miss…

 

[Nolander]

I really wish you could just keep it in sport all the time. So freaking annoying.

 

[bmwhitetx]

Seems to be hit or miss with mine, sometimes I get in and it's still on sport, sometimes I get the pop up so I have no idea what's going on, ghost in the machine perhaps lol.

Since you have a 2025, it is sticky up to 4 hours. If truck is off more that 4 hours it prompts you. See here for Owners Manual excerpt.

For others, this is only for 2025's. Lots of other posts where folks want to enable it for earlier years. Start with the post I linked above. Spoiler Alert - so far it can't be done for earlier years.

 

[moodinsk]

I just wanted to chime in, my truck starting doing this recently after these updates.

APIM-25.2.4.9
TCU-25.2.8.5

Now, I still get the prompt to return to sport mode as usual. The color scheme switches to grey but after 20-30 seconds, it flips back to blue (normal). I have to then go back into vehicle settings and manually toggle it back to sport and it will stay there.

I always drive in sport mode. It's so annoying that I have keep choosing on each drive. Such a stupid decision on Ford's end.

 

[blb228]

W4482 anyone!?

 

[morrisosu]

I just wanted to chime in, my truck starting doing this recently after these updates.

APIM-25.2.4.9
TCU-25.2.8.5

Now, I still get the prompt to return to sport mode as usual. The color scheme switches to grey but after 20-30 seconds, it flips back to blue (normal). I have to then go back into vehicle settings and manually toggle it back to sport and it will stay there.

I always drive in sport mode. It's so annoying that I have keep choosing on each drive. Such a stupid decision on Ford's end.

I almost never get the prompt now. Regardless of time elapsed, since this update push.

 

[chriserx]

I just noticed today, I got the popup to return to sport, you can see the gauges change to white, then approximately after the timer would've elapsed, it switched back to normal. Brian @Ford Motor Company you may want to give that information to the programming team.

 

[RLXXI]

Unsure if anyone's noticed but switching modes changes the color of the screen to reflect what you might be doing. Put it on off road mode and it changes to brown, like dirt, change it to slippery it changes to white, like snow, sport is grey/black like asphalt.

 

[morrisosu]

I just noticed today, I got the popup to return to sport, you can see the gauges change to white, then approximately after the timer would've elapsed, it switched back to normal. Brian @Ford Motor Company you may want to give that information to the programming team.

I saw this last week as well, when the prompt does appear. You can select Sport (note the color does change) then shortly afterwards you're back to Normal mode.

 

[mxracer]

Same crap here.. posted this in another thread but worth repeating...


After this last set of updates on my 24 Flash driving mode will not "stick" after the vehicle has been on the charger. I run in sport mode all the time and the popup to switch to sport at startup does not show up after being on the charger now, sometimes shows up off charge, and sometimes shows up, lets me select Yes and then switches back to normal mode.

Absolute shame that a company of this size cannot get their act together with the software.

Being a software engineer for around 30 years I know it takes some effort to build, maintain and update software for a company this size but damn... they have the resources to do it.

 

[chriserx]

To be fair, based on what you can actually see, it would be a pretty easy mistake to make. Especially if they had to hack it in due to some government regulation.

 

[mxracer]

To be fair, based on what you can actually see, it would be a pretty easy mistake to make. Especially if they had to hack it in due to some government regulation.

Not sure I follow. They made an update to APIM module software to help with Android Auto and Apple Carplay connection times and jacked up the vehicle mode.

I watched it a bit more last night when I left the house and it all works as normal until (in my case) Android Auto connects and pops up then it reverts to the default normal mode, along with the APIM being sluggish as hell for 10-30 seconds.

Again, after 30 years or so of being a software engineer this is a mistake that should have been caught by unit and/or user acceptance testing IMO. Trust me, I've been there and I realize mistakes happen. The real issue is these are real mistakes when it comes to a vehicle.

The government regulation that caused the original change of the vehicle not "sticking" in a user selected mode and reverting back to normal to "protect" the user since they would not definitively know what mode they were in is being violated by this error. (Note that think the regulation is an over-reach but that is of no consequence)

I start my truck, select Yes to keep in in sport mode, start driving and a few seconds later is reverts to normal mode, with no other indication except that the S on the dash goes out, (the S on the dash being the "unsafe" or "inadequate" indication for it so stick in sport mode) Now I think I'm in sport but I'm in normal and I don't definitively know what mode I am in.

Based on the original change that is based on government over-watch it is simply an error that should have been high on the priority list for re-testing and should be immediately remediated as it violates that government regulation.

One last thought... if this were an isolated instance or even one of a few instances of issues with the software in any and all Ford vehicles it would be different. Sighting the numerous issues I have personally had with this and other Ford vehicle's software and the much more numerous issues brought up in forums such as this it is far from isolated and is why I originally said "Absolute shame that a company of this size cannot get their act together with the software."

 

[chriserx]

I seem to have broken the quote system and I'm too lazy to do it by hand, also possible I don't know how to use it effectively...
I agree with you in principle, a multibillion dollar company should be able to figure this out. That being said...

"Not sure I follow. They made an update to APIM module software to help with Android Auto and Apple Carplay connection times and jacked up the vehicle mode."

AFAIK the module where driving modes are handled are different from the APIM that was updated. This is where I suspect the gremlin lies. I think that both the VCM and APIM have a drive mode reversion logic. The APIM asks the driver if they want to use the previous mode, driver selects ok, you see the drive mode change. Shortly thereafter, it reverts to normal, likely due to the fact a flag wasn't sent (or more likely, wasn't able to be processed due to a code difference) to the VCM.

"I watched it a bit more last night when I left the house and it all works as normal until (in my case) Android Auto connects and pops up then it reverts to the default normal mode, along with the APIM being sluggish as hell for 10-30 seconds."

I haven't had the APIM be sluggish, but I'll try and remember to test this when I get off work tonight with CarPlay instead of AA.

"Again, after 30 years or so of being a software engineer this is a mistake that should have been caught by unit and/or user acceptance testing IMO. Trust me, I've been there and I realize mistakes happen. The real issue is these are real mistakes when it comes to a vehicle."

Consider the fact that the bug only shows itself after being in the off position for several hours. Now consider the sales volume for the vehicle. Finally, consider how many of those are in early access. It is extraordinarily easy for a bug that presents in this manner to slip through the cracks. What isn't is how long it's been present.

The government regulation that caused the original change of the vehicle not "sticking" in a user selected mode and reverting back to normal to "protect" the user since they would not definitively know what mode they were in is being violated by this error. (Note that think the regulation is an over-reach but that is of no consequence)

Agree. Agree, except maybe for the no consequence, but I would be being facetious.

"I start my truck, select Yes to keep in in sport mode, start driving and a few seconds later is reverts to normal mode, with no other indication except that the S on the dash goes out, (the S on the dash being the "unsafe" or "inadequate" indication for it so stick in sport mode) Now I think I'm in sport but I'm in normal and I don't definitively know what mode I am in."

Well I mean the gauge color changes in my primary indicator. The next is the squishier accelerator pedal. Finally, the off accel regen.

"Based on the original change that is based on government over-watch it is simply an error that should have been high on the priority list for re-testing and should be immediately remediated as it violates that government regulation."

Don't necessarily disagree here, except maybe the violation of regulations. I think the only real issue was the off road mode but without looking at the actual programming, who knows. Between timing and Ford's update, I was guess the government wants you to keep it in normal, but this is speculative at best.

"One last thought... if this were an isolated instance or even one of a few instances of issues with the software in any and all Ford vehicles it would be different. Sighting the numerous issues I have personally had with this and other Ford vehicle's software and the much more numerous issues brought up in forums such as this it is far from isolated and is why I originally said "Absolute shame that a company of this size cannot get their act together with the software.""

Agree with the sentiment, but I would say disappointment rather than shame.

Of course now that I am about to press post, I found the insert quote button below my keyboard

Shame.

@Ford Motor Company Thoughts?

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