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I just read and article that gives another explanation why carmakers don't always want to include Carplay. When they offer it they basically have to guarantee that it continues to work for the life of the vehicle (since it was a feature you paid for as part of the price of the car) even as Apple updates phone software. Carmakers have to continuously test and make sure it works with every iPhone and vehicle software update. I know with the Bronco there is a TSB that requires a dealer visit to update the software to fix Carplay issues (which we will have to have done since Carplay is intermittent on our Bronco).

I'm sure automakers have to strike a balance between customer demand for it and not having to fool with it and having more design flexibility.
So much simpler than that. Its brand identity and selling the crap out of your data.
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So much simpler than that. Its brand identity and selling the crap out of your data.
I would add on that same theme, it is probably near impossible to sell something like "Connected Navigation" when you have superior navigation on the same screen available for free.
 

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Apparently, as of now, GM's EVs outside the US still get AA and CarPlay.
It would be no surprise if it turned out to be because they can get away with data gathering here that they can’t do in other countries because some civilized nations have actually useful privacy laws.
 

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I just read and article that gives another explanation why carmakers don't always want to include Carplay. When they offer it they basically have to guarantee that it continues to work for the life of the vehicle (since it was a feature you paid for as part of the price of the car) even as Apple updates phone software. Carmakers have to continuously test and make sure it works with every iPhone and vehicle software update. I know with the Bronco there is a TSB that requires a dealer visit to update the software to fix Carplay issues (which we will have to have done since Carplay is intermittent on our Bronco).

I'm sure automakers have to strike a balance between customer demand for it and not having to fool with it and having more design flexibility.
This is an interesting take that I've been trying to think through. My question would be how does this differ from some other third-party technology Ford has chosen to include such as Sirius or Bluetooth? For me the expectation would be that my truck should continue to adhere to the protocols, handshakes, whatever, for such technologies as they were when it was put into service. If the technologies change, that's not Ford's fault and I don't think they should be responsible for keeping the vehicle compatible. However, your Bronco issue appears to be a result of Ford not implementing the current integration correctly and that should be on them to fix.

To put it another way, while I'd love it, I have absolutely zero expectation of ever getting a software update enabling CarPlay Ultra in my Lightning.
 
 







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