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Here is the reality. No matter how much you disagree or are angry, it won't change the facts.

1. EVs cost too much
2. Drivers still have range anxiety. That wont change till range gets higher.
3. Infrastructure severely lacks in certain places in this country and charging prices are too high.
4. If a product needs to be subsidized by the Gov't, it will fail.

EVs wont go away, but they will come back in the 2030s with better tech. This is my 2nd go around with the EV rise and fall. Been doing this over 20 years.
That is the reality from the current administration. You are completely forgetting what China is doing and the infrastructure they have in place because the government INVESTED in the tech.

So imagine if we took the AI boom that we are having now and use some of that towards charging infrastructure, better battery structures, back to the American people that would be. Biden invested in the american infrastructure...you know for the american people.

But look at the economy now that people voted for. inflation, higher prices, tarriffs....all in one year. All that winning.
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That is the reality from the current administration. You are completely forgetting what China is doing and the infrastructure they have in place because the government INVESTED in the tech.

So imagine if we took the AI boom that we are having now and use some of that towards charging infrastructure, better battery structures, back to the American people that would be.
Wouldn't that just be "great" :)
 
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I am confused. Reading this bullentin sounds like the Lightniong will remain as an EREV but the news says the Lightning name will remain as a plug in hybrid. Those are two very different things.
The next generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV.

Extended-range electric vehicles will deliver the electric experience that customers love – 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds 700+ mile range with locomotive- like towing capability. It also has an on-board gas-powered generator which can charge the battery.
 

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Well listing a communist country doesn't hold weight to your argument.
So doest that makes what's going on that communist country not really happening?
Does it also mean the only way anything substantive is done is done by a "Free Market"?
 

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Hi F-150 Lightning owners,

I’m coming to you today with an update on our product roadmap. There has been a lot of speculation recently and we just went live with some news. So, I want to give you the facts straight from Ford, explain what is changing, and more importantly, why.

With the F-150 Lightning, we proved an electric truck could be a hit, and it has remained the best-selling electric pickup. Let’s be real about what we’ve learned from you, the owners, and the market over the last few years. You love the electric performance, smoothness, and the tech, but for those that drive long distances, take frequent trips or tow heavy loads across state lines often, an F-150 Lightning might not be the truck for them. And we want it to be.

We took a bet, produced an amazing product that so many people love, and now we’re making adjustments in response to evolving market realities, consumer preferences, and the regulatory environment. No one could have predicted how the EV landscape would change in the U.S., which has impacted the industry.
That is why our next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability. That is a game-changer for our customers. Like the current F-150 Lightning, the next-gen version will also offer exportable electricity that can power everything from work sites to camp sites to homes during a power outage.

For those who aren’t familiar with EREVs, this isn't a traditional plug-in hybrid. This is an electric vehicle with an on-board generator. It’s designed to give you the electric capability you enjoy around town, but with the range and towing confidence of a gas truck when you’re hauling a boat or camper. It will be assembled right here in Dearborn at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center.

What this means for the current generation F-150 Lightning and “T3” truck
Production of the current generation of F-150 Lightning will end this year, and we have also made the decision to no longer produce the next-generation full-size electric truck, also known as “T3”. For those that still wish to purchase a MY25 F-150 Lightning, we have good inventory and interested customers can purchase from dealer stock.

If you have an order in, or were waiting on one, please contact your dealer immediately to see if your vehicle will be built or if they can match you to an existing stock unit.

As for existing Lightning customers who might be coming off lease or looking or a new Lightning, we are looking at the following:
  • Assist early adopters to purchase or lease a new 25MY Lightning
  • Offering extensions to customers who wish to extend their leases beyond the original term
  • Providing dealer support to help match customer with available inventory

What about support for my current F-150 Lightning?
I know reading "production is ending" can be nerve-wracking for current owners. I want to be clear: We are committed to ensuring ongoing support of your vehicle’s software updates, quality and experience. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. The team is not walking away from the current F-150 Lightning, and I’m not going anywhere.

The Ford Universal EV Platform
While we shift F-150 Lightning to EREV, we are absolutely maintaining our plans and investment in the next generation of affordable EVs. The new Universal EV (UEV) platform is now more important than ever for Ford. UEV platform development is well underway. This flexible architecture will underpin a new family of smaller, more affordable, and cost-efficient vehicles—starting with a midsize pickup in 2027.

There is no impact to Mustang Mach-E. Mustang Mach-E is a great success story and is now available in almost 60 markets across the globe. It continues to be a standout electric SUV and plays an important role in the portfolio.

Other News: Battery Technology
We are also making moves to make our business more sustainable. We are repurposing our Kentucky battery plant to build large-scale battery storage systems (for grid and industrial use), and our Michigan plant will be focusing on prismatic LFP cells. The same Michigan plant will be ramping up production in 2026 to power the new midsize electric truck built on our new Universal EV Platform.

Ford has been in manufacturing for over a century. We understand power management, thermal systems, safety engineering, and large-scale manufacturing. Our licensed LFP prismatic technology is proven, and our brand represents long-term accountability critical for 20+ year infrastructure investments.

I know this is a lot of news, and for the BEV purists, this might be tough to hear. We have a huge opportunity to get more people driving electric – whether that be plug-in hybrid, extended-range electric or pure electric vehicles and our plans set us up to succeed in this mission.

You can read the press release on this news here. I’ll be in the comments a later tonight to answer what I can.

Brian from Ford
Sad truth is that all legacy auto manufactures have a bail out position to fall back on the gas models, lots of legacy cost build with it. With a change of administration again in the future, do we see Farley standing behind President Newson clapping hard for more EV's. Around, around it goes, while China brings out more affordable cars with better tech. It's time to stop protecting the likes of Ford, take the tariffs down to zero on China and make them compete. Too much money for the executives and not enough on a nimble manufacturing processes.
I have two Ford EV's, one leased and one owned. I wish both were leased so that at the end, I would just return them. My next car will be either a Tesla or a Chinese EV, I am done with the legacy car brands. My only hope is that Ford keeps up with software updates on my Lightning so I can drive it till it is no longer working.
 

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So doest that makes what's going on that communist country not really happening?
Does it also mean the only way anything substantive is done is done by a "Free Market"?
Of course its happening, but the people don't have a choice. You choose, want a "free market" or a "dictated market".
 

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The next generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV.

Extended-range electric vehicles will deliver the electric experience that customers love – 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds 700+ mile range with locomotive- like towing capability. It also has an on-board gas-powered generator which can charge the battery.
Do you know where the onboard generator will be located? And will there be a setting to be able to drive in pure EV mode with the generator turned off, which lets drivers choose when they need it or not?
 

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Well listing a communist country doesn't hold weight to your argument.
Your comment holds no weight, the fact is China is kicking the US butt 9 ways to Sunday. The US answer is to put a tariff on China to stop the competition. What a great idea but what else to expect from a Federal incompetent body of minds.
 

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The next generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV.

Extended-range electric vehicles will deliver the electric experience that customers love – 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds 700+ mile range with locomotive- like towing capability. It also has an on-board gas-powered generator which can charge the battery.

Questions:
  • Do you know the battery Size/range on this?
  • How often the ICE engine needs oil change?
  • And how the emission test rules apply to this setup?
 

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The next generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV.

Extended-range electric vehicles will deliver the electric experience that customers love – 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds 700+ mile range with locomotive- like towing capability. It also has an on-board gas-powered generator which can charge the battery.
I don't think Ford understands what Lightning owners want.......no gas, no oil, starting vehicle in a CLOSED garage, no engine noise, no maintenance on an engine! For me, I have driven my truck in to warehouses to do work because there is no risk from carbon monoxide. I pull on to very expensive stamped driveways because there is no risk for oil leaking. I don't want to change oil. I don't want a head gasket issue or other emissions/firing issues associated with an engine. I drive over 300 miles in a day about twice a year. Unfortunately if my 2022 OG Lariat doesn't last long enough before Ford realizes their mistake, the GMC will be my next EV.
In my discussions with MANY gas truck owners, I didn't see very many saying oh yes, I want to add batteries to my engine. Batteries are their concern. They'll continue with their gas powered trucks. And EV owners will find another EV solution.
 

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Do you know where the onboard generator will be located? And will there be a setting to be able to drive in pure EV mode with the generator turned off, which lets drivers choose when they need it or not?
I suspect the generator is in the frunk. I love my frunk.
 

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Well listing a communist country doesn't hold weight to your argument.
Completly missing the point. China is going to own the future in EV's renewable energy and energy independence because the government is is investing in the future. Our gov't is trying to return to the past.
 

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The next generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV.

Extended-range electric vehicles will deliver the electric experience that customers love – 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds 700+ mile range with locomotive- like towing capability. It also has an on-board gas-powered generator which can charge the battery.
Great the news reported it wrong.
 

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The next generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV.

Extended-range electric vehicles will deliver the electric experience that customers love – 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds 700+ mile range with locomotive- like towing capability. It also has an on-board gas-powered generator which can charge the battery.
Any reason why not a shift to upcoming solid state batteries? Half the weight or twice the range with faster charging.
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