Private Cash Offer + $5k price protection UPDATE — the nightmare before Christmas

[jimfigler]

Didn’t have a problem with mine in the end. They gave me the price protection without a hitch. But were reluctant to give the 7k cash offer. The sales manager wanted to make sure and said he needed to check the following day. Before we left with the truck he walked up to me and said I would be getting the 7k check within a week. So In total little over 50k for the Pro and about $42500 after we get taxes back next year.

That’s weird. Most have no trouble with the 7k private offer just the 5k October price increase

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[tsszen]

That’s weird. Most have no trouble with the 7k private offer just the 5k October price increase

Agreed. The dealer should have 0 say about the PCO. Ford inputs the PCO into smartVincent and it’s either there or it’s not…there is no “maybe” or “at the dealer’s” discretion involved

 

[Goat Whore]

My reservation was a day one. Got invited to order and did not. Got invited again in November and ordered 11-30-22.
Should I get the $7000 PCO?
I'm assuming I won't qualify for the $5000 price protection as the price was already jacked up before I ordered.

 

[KurtsRPMGarage]

My reservation was a day one. Got invited to order and did not. Got invited again in November and ordered 11-30-22.
Should I get the $7000 PCO?
I'm assuming I won't qualify for the $5000 price protection as the price was already jacked up before I ordered.

Nope sorry.

 

[Goat Whore]

What has to happen to qualify for the $7000 PCO?

 

[tsszen]

What has to happen to qualify for the $7000 PCO?

You had to have had a 2022 model year reservation that was pushed pack to 2023, and you accepted the offer to extend your reservation to a 2023 model. But if you ordered after the $5k price hike I think that means you weren’t a part of the 2022 reservations pushed back to ‘23

 

[plucas005]

Figured I can add my story in case anyone in a similar situation wants to copy my emails. My Pro has just been built but not yet shipped, so I emailed my dealer about delivery timing etc.

Dealer's reply:

I have also attached the window sticker for the Lightning. The sale price will be the MSRP of $57,269.​

The window sticker MSRP is of course after the $5000 price adjustment in October/November.

I replied:

The window sticker has the MSRP of the manufacturing blend date, but the MSRP price when I ordered the vehicle in August was $5000 lower at $52,269. Ford ensures purchase price protection from the time the customer places the order, not the window sticker creation date. I have attached a copy of my build sheet from August.​

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There should be a way for you to check the DORA from my original order date. When the dealership gets the invoice from Ford it will display the new higher price, but Ford reimburses the dealer the difference within 45 days so long as it is sold to the customer who placed the original order.​

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In addition to price protection, there is a private cash offer from Ford on my truck that will reduce the final purchase price. My reservation number is the offer code for that Private Cash Offer. I have spoken with Ford customer service about both of these offers, and can put them in touch with you if you have any questions about it.​

Dealer's reply:

I am going to call Ford Program HQ on Monday to get a definitive answer on this. I do see the original MSRP as a 2023 model, and I do see the $7,000 rebate for the 2023 model year transition, BUT historically Ford has only allowed us to claim price protection on an MSRP increase or a price protection rebate, but not both.​

(interesting move to blame it on Ford...)

Dealer's followup:

I spoke with Ford this morning and confirmed you're locked in to the MSRP as it was on the day you ordered the Lightning, and you should also be able to get the $7,000 rebate on top of that. You will be all set when the truck comes in!​

Hope this is helpful to someone.

 

[jimfigler]

What has to happen to qualify for the $7000 PCO?

people who ordered in wave 1 for the Pro and wave 2 for the XLT got private offers as did some who actually a 22 order that was pushed to 23. What did you order in November?

 

[asianman35]

Figured I can add my story in case anyone in a similar situation wants to copy my emails. My Pro has just been built but not yet shipped, so I emailed my dealer about delivery timing etc.

Dealer's reply:

I have also attached the window sticker for the Lightning. The sale price will be the MSRP of $57,269.​

The window sticker MSRP is of course after the $5000 price adjustment in October/November.

I replied:

The window sticker has the MSRP of the manufacturing blend date, but the MSRP price when I ordered the vehicle in August was $5000 lower at $52,269. Ford ensures purchase price protection from the time the customer places the order, not the window sticker creation date. I have attached a copy of my build sheet from August.​

​

There should be a way for you to check the DORA from my original order date. When the dealership gets the invoice from Ford it will display the new higher price, but Ford reimburses the dealer the difference within 45 days so long as it is sold to the customer who placed the original order.​

​

In addition to price protection, there is a private cash offer from Ford on my truck that will reduce the final purchase price. My reservation number is the offer code for that Private Cash Offer. I have spoken with Ford customer service about both of these offers, and can put them in touch with you if you have any questions about it.​

Dealer's reply:

I am going to call Ford Program HQ on Monday to get a definitive answer on this. I do see the original MSRP as a 2023 model, and I do see the $7,000 rebate for the 2023 model year transition, BUT historically Ford has only allowed us to claim price protection on an MSRP increase or a price protection rebate, but not both.​

(interesting move to blame it on Ford...)

Dealer's followup:

I spoke with Ford this morning and confirmed you're locked in to the MSRP as it was on the day you ordered the Lightning, and you should also be able to get the $7,000 rebate on top of that. You will be all set when the truck comes in!​

Hope this is helpful to someone.

Thank you for sharing, would love more people to share their (success) stories. My truck had a blend date of 12/16 so will be finished pretty soon. So I will have this fight in January sometime hopefully.

 

[jimfigler]

Thank you for sharing, would love more people to share their (success) stories. My truck had a blend date of 12/16 so will be finished pretty soon. So I will have this fight in January sometime hopefully.

go to 10/24 build week thread. There are a bunch us who got both price protection and private offer. It was about 50/50 that got the $5000 off the deal or got promised by the dealer that they would get the $5000 when the dealer got it from Ford.

 

[msadan]

Has anyone with an early reservation taken delivery since the latest (mid December) price hike?
I made my reservation on 5/20/21. The first time I was given the option to order the Pros were sold out, so my reservation was extended. The second chance to order was on 8/11/22, and I was able to order a Pro at that time. The truck is now scheduled for production the week of January 9.
I just downloaded my window sticker and the base sticker price is $55,974, $16K higher than when I made my reservation. So I'm assuming that I'm entitled to the $7K private offer (price increase from 2022 to 2023 model year) plus $9K in price protection ($5K and $4K price increases this year) plus maybe a couple hundred more destination/delivery charge increases. Sounds great in theory, just wondering if anyone has actually seen this happen yet.

 

[EdwinT]

Has anyone with an early reservation taken delivery since the latest (mid December) price hike?
I made my reservation on 5/20/21. The first time I was given the option to order the Pros were sold out, so my reservation was extended. The second chance to order was on 8/11/22, and I was able to order a Pro at that time. The truck is now scheduled for production the week of January 9.
I just downloaded my window sticker and the base sticker price is $55,974, $16K higher than when I made my reservation. So I'm assuming that I'm entitled to the $7K private offer (price increase from 2022 to 2023 model year) plus $9K in price protection ($5K and $4K price increases this year) plus maybe a couple hundred more destination/delivery charge increases. Sounds great in theory, just wondering if anyone has actually seen this happen yet.

Yes but whoever orders the vehicle has to take delivery. The dealership will be reimbursed around 45 days later.

Straight from Ford CS: “If the vehicle is ordered before MSRP changes the vehicle will be Covered and protected under price protection (base price, options, and destination and delivery fees) that were in affect when the order was originally received.”

The issue is getting your dealer to acknowledge it. They can reach out to their Ford rep who will confirm this for them.

Other than that…the dealer can tack on whatever they want…so hopefully you already spoke to them about not adding a markup

 

[shadycoh]

in theory that is how it should work

In reality It depends on your dealership and how many Pro's they have done contracts on.

Some dealers know what's up and give you the credits

some dealers are not up to date on the procedures and will

A> listen to you and your stack of info showing what should happen
B> Don't care what you say or have in the way of info and will

1> contact regional managers and find out you should get the money
2> say We are not risking Ford paying us back so if we get it we will forward it to you


as far as the 7K PCO I think only a few have had issues getting that as the PCO have been around for ages and dealers know how to look them up and apply them, Or they will try to spin hogwash and steal it from you.

 

[metroshot]

in theory that is how it should work

In reality It depends on your dealership and how many Pro's they have done contracts on.

Some dealers know what's up and give you the credits

some dealers are not up to date on the procedures and will

A> listen to you and your stack of info showing what should happen
B> Don't care what you say or have in the way of info and will

1> contact regional managers and find out you should get the money
2> say We are not risking Ford paying us back so if we get it we will forward it to you


as far as the 7K PCO I think only a few have had issues getting that as the PCO have been around for ages and dealers know how to look them up and apply them, Or they will try to spin hogwash and steal it from you.

^^^ this is correct on price protection ($5K) for the Pro.

Some dealers won't front the price protection amount, while others will.

Either way, the customer still gets the price protection money - whether it's instantly on the sales contract or later by mail a check will be mailed to you.

 

[bluestarct]

In California, the rebate is taxable. It's CA after all....

Is the $5k and $4k price protections also structured as a rebate? That's about $698 in additional sales tax in CA if they are.

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