Will Ford Allow API Access for the F150 Lightning?

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[The Weatherman]

Just the opposite. Ford has suspended access via FordPass for folks that have done just that.

It looks like they are holding this information tight to the chest.

 

[astricklin]

Ya doubtful this will happen with this generation truck, or ever. Best thing to hope for is a better Ford app with more information available.

Remember, Tesla is a software company that is building cars. Ford is an automobile manufacturer that unfortunately has to have software running in its vehicles.

 

[ivan256]

This is relevant: https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insig...-expand-access-to-vehicle-generated-data.html

Your vehicle belongs to you, and vehicle manufacturers should not be able to prevent you from using it as you see fit.

It is possible to enable this securely with established standards and technologies. Ford, and other manufacturers have no honest argument for restricting access to existing APIs and systems other than using a thing that doesn't belong to them (your truck) as a business asset. (Accessing their cloud APIs that they pay to host is another story.)

Hopefully eventually this will be a law everywhere. Copyright and copy protection "rights" are artificial privileges granted by our government “to promote the progress of science and useful arts." All we need is to stop providing that privilege in this circumstance.

 

[ivan256]

BTW, Ford does expose some of this data to Apple CarPlay apps (a standout feature that Tesla doesn't offer ). So it doesn't seem that Ford has some universal philosophy here. It's likely that the engineers and designers and lawyers just aren't all on the same page yet.

 

[MRButtler]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_repair

Restricting access to parts (1950s–2000s)

 

[Gimme_my_MME]

There is currently a beta program underway with just a few people to test out API implementation in their apps. It is a very slow process but there is movement

 

[GDN]

Ford is lucky to get the very basic commands to work with their own app.

It would be nice if they had solid communications with the truck and opened it up, but they don't have the skills and infrastructure and for sure this generation of hardware in the trucks just can't do it.

It was also noted Ford has shut down what little others have done. Such an old school way of thinking.

One person noted CarPlay and gave it props vs Tesla ignoring it. I am glad CarPlay works in the truck, because once again Ford can't deliver any integration.

I couldn't be happier that Tesla continues to raise their middle finger to it. Thier own integration of calling, texting and their own apps is rock solid. They control the stack. I never miss CarPlay ever in the Tesla. Their shit just works and I have no need for it.

 

[djwildstar]

I'm sure a big part of this has to do with lawyers, liability, and corporate image. As a large, established automaker, Ford has a lot to lose (and little to gain) from a "move fast and break things" approach, while Tesla has historically been a market disruptor that in the opposite position. Tesla is maturing as an automaker, and I would expect both internal forces (marketing and customer relations) and external forces (regulation and investors) will gradually change it to be more similar to other large automakers in this regard.

 

[GDN]

I'm sure a big part of this has to do with lawyers, liability, and corporate image. As a large, established automaker, Ford has a lot to lose (and little to gain) from a "move fast and break things" approach, while Tesla has historically been a market disruptor that in the opposite position. Tesla is maturing as an automaker, and I would expect both internal forces (marketing and customer relations) and external forces (regulation and investors) will gradually change it to be more similar to other large automakers in this regard.

There are a couple of small shifts in Tesla, starting some advertising, but otherwise I think it is just the opposite. The legacy guys will have to shift or find themselves out. Tesla will be the new standard.

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