2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ?

[ENG430]

You can only update these through FDRS or OTA.

FDRS is the Ford Diag tool.

Will this tool avoid the warranty?
Also what is the best affordable adapter that works with FDRS.
Thank you

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[GolfR]

Hi, I will try and get them off of mine but there has been a total of 2 IPMA updates. he first IPMA update resolved a clarity/Resolution issue with the camera system. The second was not specific to the camera in motion but that was included. Also if you have the latest update and still do not have motion you will need to adjust as built in the APIM as well. I used a 21.5 as a guide. You could maybe use the forscan dropdown style configuration also to adjust yours to remove the speed limits. I just found it easier the way I went with it since I knew the speed restrictions were resolved in those truck.

Unfortunately the IPMA will likely not get OTA for these updates as they are so large and can cause too many issues if they do not complete. Since the IPMA controls so much of the vehicle. It is one of the most important modules in the Truck. If you look at the operation charts for the 2021 almost all runs through it. If it were to fail during an update it would be a big problem for ford and this update is huge. I do understand a portion of the time required for the update is due to the Canbus data speed limitations but the update took me 6 hours or so on a 360 cam IPMA. Could be less for the rear cam.

My understanding(Could be wrong) The ethernet is only for OTA, the gateway downloads the update(8GB limit) and then transfers the update through ethernet to the module. Modules with Ethernet. APIM, TCU, IPMA(If Update is Small enough), Gateway(Some that have an early build that have not received OTAs as of now need to have the dealer manually update their Gateway as it was the issues causing OTAs to not work), IPC, B&O Amp. Again I could be wrong but its what I understand since the ethernet has a much higher data transfer speed.

I have received all the power up updates including the latest 2.1.1 and prior the 2.1.0 and neither address the IPMA. The 1.7 was an APIM update to 21146. I did that one manually though, I was to anxious to wait.

The 1.7 power up was to get the APIM to build 21146 for 21 builds. The 1.6 was a gateway update. I cant say what the prior one was. I believe it was a TCU(Telematic Module) update to improve responsiveness.

There are several updates available for early 21 builds that are dealer visit required. I would suggest to those of you that have not gone to a dealer or have FDRS access to log in and get all of those done and I believe that will help with those of you not receiving OTA. I am receiving OTAs and my truck is so far from stock its hilarious when I get in and see a successful update.

One Note to those with a APIM build previous to 21146. 21146 will not even show in FDRS until the Gateway update is completed, If you have a truck that has not received any updates I would suggest strongly you be the ones to go get your truck fully updated. A lot of the updates depend upon other updates being there.

Sorry if this is a bit of a rambling post, I just got on and am going freestyle. I am trying to help as best I can. I know it can be frustrating to not have updates others are getting but I really suggest you follow the advice I gave to get the updates done. I think once you do that you'll be ready to start receiving updates.

Also be careful when comparing to 21.5 trucks for as build date. They are different and some do not have the start stop they removed it so they can ship them faster.

Side note any of those with a July build that can not activate Fordpass you need to go to the dealer for a gateway reconfigure. There is a TSB/SSM/GSM about it.

if we are interested in getting these dealer installed update, what should we specifically ask the dealer to do? Is there a tech order or anything else that we could reference?

thanks!

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

if we are interested in getting these dealer installed update, what should we specifically ask the dealer to do? Is there a tech order or anything else that we could reference?

thanks!

The updates populate automatically when the tech plugs in with fdrs there is a tab that is clearly marked software updates
Under that tab will show every module that requires an update

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Will this tool avoid the warranty?
Also what is the best affordable adapter that works with FDRS.
Thank you

This is the ford OEM dish software it’s what they use at the dealers
You would need a VCM3 or VCM 2 the 3 is newest it’s about $1500

 

[mhoffman54]

This is the ford OEM dish software it’s what they use at the dealers
You would need a VCM3 or VCM 2 the 3 is newest it’s about $1500

AND the software itself is another $900+... Definitely not something designed for the average at home DIYer.

 

[Zyvin]

Well, one step closer. I can now look at the hitch view and bed camera in motion.

Unfortunately, I haven’t figured out how to get the side view rear cam to work. I have added the bed camera tile on the side view, but no image there. Maybe it’s one of the IPMA changes that @Jesse-Infotainment had mentioned earlier. Not sure yet if it’s an APIM or IPMA issue.

The video is there obviously, as seen on full screen, but something has to format it to the side view. Maybe a trigger command. There is a bed view soft button there as well, but it doesn’t do anything but beep.

See photos, I can press the camera button and it goes first to hitch view, press again and it goes to bed view while going down the road at any speed. I had too many other chores to do today to spend anymore time on it.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Well, one step closer. I can now look at the hitch view and bed camera in motion.

Unfortunately, I haven’t figured out how to get the side view rear cam to work. I have added the bed camera tile on the side view, but no image there. Maybe it’s one of the IPMA changes that @Jesse-Infotainment had mentioned earlier. Not sure yet if it’s an APIM or IPMA issue.

The video is there obviously, as seen on full screen, but something has to format it to the side view. Maybe a trigger command. There is a bed view soft button there as well, but it doesn’t do anything but beep.

See photos, I can press the camera button and it goes first to hitch view, press again and it goes to bed view while going down the road at any speed. I had too many other chores to do today to spend anymore time on it.

Yeah, unfortunately i believe that to be something the new IPMA that ships in the later builds is only capable of. That and the full screen Cargo cam. The IPMA did change in July builds. They are capable of both. I believe it to be the IPMA.

I haven't ruled out 100% the APIM with later builds adding it but I feel its low percentage. The onlt reason i havent ruled it out is due to not being able to test the newer build on my older IPMA. I hope to be able to soon.

It could be a combo of both the later build and newer IPMA. I messed with trying to get the cargo cam to display and could not. The calibrations are completely different between early IPMA and July IPMA>

Also it seems in conversation with livnitup the newer build limits the cam views in motion to those same views that we have with the IPMA update.

 

[mhoffman54]

@Jesse-Infotainment which modules in Forscan could potentially affect my connectivity issues? I've tried reset Ford pass connect in Sync 4, removing the vehicle and (attempting) to re-add in the app (still no luck there), master reset in sync 4... I'm going to revert to my factory as-builts on any module that contains connectivity settings, but I'd rather not revert EVERYTHING back to stock if I don't want to.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

@Jesse-Infotainment which modules in Forscan could potentially affect my connectivity issues? I've tried reset Ford pass connect in Sync 4, removing the vehicle and (attempting) to re-add in the app (still no luck there), master reset in sync 4... I'm going to revert to my factory as-builts on any module that contains connectivity settings, but I'd rather not revert EVERYTHING back to stock if I don't want to.

The TCU is on the back wall. That’s the main module for the telematics.

did you ever get an error stating anything about different vehicle? I’m just wondering if maybe you did something to the vin storage in the BCM possibly. If you inadvertently did that could cause a big problem because you have now reported that TCU as associated with a different vin

other than that when my situation happened I had to wait overnight before I tried again

the other thing is to make sure your the administrator of the FordPass account. What I mean is if you have granted access to others you would need to remove their acces also to fully remove the vehicle

I’m just throwing things out there that can cause this because I don’t know what you have done.

I would suggest to either unplug the TCU (back wall behind passenger rear seat) or pull the battery for a while and let it sit also)

I did have the issue but I did get it resolved the following morning

are you getting the activate car on the sync screen? Can you post a video possibly of the process you are going through so I can see what’s happening

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Also maybe go into Forscan and see what DTCs you have in modules. It may give some indication of what’s happening

 

[mhoffman54]

GWM, the specific module that was altered by the 2.1.0 OTA update is showing this DTC. Tried to restore the GWM module to my original factory as-built, but it said there were no changes. Tried to restore IPMA to original factory as built, and it gets to 8% and says service procedure interrupted. So, I went through and tried to write each line in the module one by one. All said no changes until I got to 706-29-xx. That one attempts to write, but shows service procedure interrupted. That particular line is for SensorCfg_DPAC_Homography3. I have no idea what that is, and I definitely never touched it.

 

[mhoffman54]

GWM, the specific module that was altered by the 2.1.0 OTA update is showing this DTC. Tried to restore the GWM module to my original factory as-built, but it said there were no changes. Tried to restore IPMA to original factory as built, and it gets to 8% and says service procedure interrupted. So, I went through and tried to write each line in the module one by one. All said no changes until I got to 706-29-xx. That one attempts to write, but shows service procedure interrupted. That particular line is for SensorCfg_DPAC_Homography3. I have no idea what that is, and I definitely never touched it.

706-34-xx has also apparently been altered, but cannot be restored. That one is listed as CustomerSetting_AHBOnOff_Pers1 (CSAHBOOP) • CustomerSetting_AHBOnOff_Pers2 (CSAHBOOP) • CustomerSetting_AHBOnOff_Pers3 (CSAHBOOP) • CustomerSetting_AHBOnOff_Pers4 (CSAHBOOP)

 

[mhoffman54]

The TCU is on the back wall. That’s the main module for the telematics.

did you ever get an error stating anything about different vehicle? I’m just wondering if maybe you did something to the vin storage in the BCM possibly. If you inadvertently did that could cause a big problem because you have now reported that TCU as associated with a different vin

other than that when my situation happened I had to wait overnight before I tried again

the other thing is to make sure your the administrator of the FordPass account. What I mean is if you have granted access to others you would need to remove their acces also to fully remove the vehicle

I’m just throwing things out there that can cause this because I don’t know what you have done.

I would suggest to either unplug the TCU (back wall behind passenger rear seat) or pull the battery for a while and let it sit also)

I did have the issue but I did get it resolved the following morning

are you getting the activate car on the sync screen? Can you post a video possibly of the process you are going through so I can see what’s happening

I am not getting any activation screen in SYNC. The app shows activation pending and then I get the error message I showed earlier.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

Yeah That DTC in regards to the IPMA ethernet was on mine after that 2.1 update as well.

What is the build date of your truck?

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

The IPMA would not affect you Activation.. My IPMA isnt even the one that came with the truck since I updated to 360 cam.

I would disconnect power to the TCU for a while or disconnect the battery. I was getting an error at first also then I left it over night and it was fine in the AM.

If you didnt change anything in terms of your vin you are fine. I have changed all kinds of things in my truck and those things will not have an affect.

The TCU plug is easy to get to if you fold the seat back down like youre getting to the jack. Peel the rear carpoet back and that is the TCU.. Just unplug it for the overnight and then plug it in the morning and try again.

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