Configuration files wanted

[hb.sagen]

I am trying to discover what modules in the Norwegian 2023 Lariat SR that is unoriginal. So far I have found the:

- BECM switched from XXX to NL38-10B687-XA
- TCU switched from PL3T-14H076-FNF to NU5T-14H074-CHE

And possibly:

- RTM - Radio Transceiver Module from XXX to FT4T-15K619-AB (or any part that enables DAB radio and removes SiriusXM)

Anyone with a 2023 Lariat willing to share their configuration file?

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[RLXXI]

I am trying to discover what modules in the Norwegian 2023 Lariat SR that is unoriginal. So far I have found the:

- BECM switched from XXX to NL38-10B687-XA
- TCU switched from PL3T-14H076-FNF to NU5T-14H074-CHE

And possibly:

- RTM - Radio Transceiver Module from XXX to FT4T-15K619-AB (or any part that enables DAB radio and removes SiriusXM)

Anyone with a 2023 Lariat willing to share their configuration file?

You can d/l the asbuilt (original) files for your truck on this link with the vin#. https://www.motorcraftservice.com/AsBuilt

 

[hb.sagen]

But the module verssions are not listed in the as built files? Like in the file in the first post?

 

[RLXXI]

But the module verssions are not listed in the as built files? Like in the file in the first post?

Afaik, the versions they keep on file are the originals. Files as they were built.

 

[hb.sagen]

Yes, and I have them. But the german engineers switched components from other vehicles. The BECM is from an E-Transit, and the DAB module is from something else, maybe a MME?

I want to check if other components are switched as well.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

The files are in the as build.. as the very bottom.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

RTM is the module that handles the Remote key fob and TPMS

ACM handles DAB

 

[bmwhitetx]

The file you posted is from Forscan. On the Motorcraft As-built site, you have to download the file to see module info. The module info is at the bottom of the file described by <NODEID> tags. For example, the F188 tag is what Forscan refers to as Strategy and CarScanner refers to as ECU Software Number. I don’t know which Fxxx corresponds to Part Number though, maybe @Jesse-Infotainment or @rugedraw knows.

 

[bmwhitetx]

Afaik, the versions they keep on file are the originals. Files as they were built.

Things may be different than when you were a tech. The As-built files on the Motorcraft site get updated with current module versions and any parameters you modified. The file will not be the original file when the truck was built anymore.

Forscan changes won’t be reflected immediately but eventually the truck phones home and lets the Motorcraft site know the updated configuration. I worked with a member once and it took a couple of weeks for his Forscan changes to appear on the As-Built site.

FDRS sessions seem to update the Motocraft As-Built site very quickly. The one time I did FDRS updates, the As-built file on Motocraft reflected the change within minutes.

I download the As-Built file each month for my truck - that's how I confirm that OTA's and dealer service actually changed the module software version in the truck. See my post above on how you can use the As-built file to determine the software version of each module.

 

[RLXXI]

Things may be different than when you were a tech. The As-built files on the Motorcraft site get updated with current module versions and any parameters you modified. The file will not be the original file when the truck was built anymore.

Forscan changes won’t be reflected immediately but eventually the truck phones home and lets the Motorcraft site know the updated configuration. I worked with a member once and it took a couple of weeks for his Forscan changes to appear on the As-Built site.

FDRS sessions seem to update the Motocraft As-Built site very quickly. The one time I did FDRS updates, the As-built file on Motocraft reflected the change within minutes.

I download the As-Built file each month for my truck - that's how I confirm that OTA's and dealer service actually changed the module software version in the truck. See my post above on how you can use the As-built file to determine the software version of each module.

That's definitely different from back in the day, it was what ever it was built with, no such thing as calling home except for ET. That gives a whole new meaning for saving ones asbuilt from day 1, more important than ever.

Good 411.

P.S. Still a tech just not with Ford any longer.

 

[rugedraw]

The file you posted is from Forscan. On the Motorcraft As-built site, you have to download the file to see module info. The module info is at the bottom of the file described by <NODEID> tags. For example, the F188 tag is what Forscan refers to as Strategy and CarScanner refers to as ECU Software Number. I don’t know which Fxxx corresponds to Part Number though, maybe @Jesse-Infotainment or @rugedraw knows.

I know the info is in there, but I do not know how to find it in the ab file other than doing a control F and searching for it. However, if you knew what you were looking for, there would be no need to look for it. Best I can think of is let's says you wanted to know the info for the GWM, you would get the ab data and scroll to the bottom and look for 716 where the NODEID portion of the data starts for that module. The info would be somewhere in here:

That's definitely different from back in the day, it was what ever it was built with, no such thing as calling home except for ET. That gives a whole new meaning for saving ones asbuilt from day 1, more important than ever.

Good 411.

P.S. Still a tech just not with Ford any longer.

Yea, all vehicles capable of OTA's sync themselves with the mothership randomly and with every OTA.

Keep in mind the original AB data in some cases is supposed to change with OTA updates (like WAL, BC 1.4, etc). In some case, a frimware update can add new lines of code in a module that weren't there when the vehicle was first built. Your original ab data can eveutually become a problem if you revert back to it after some time.

 

[hb.sagen]

I made a comparison chart with a 2023 Lariat from the US

NodeID	Module	My Car	2023 Lariat	Difference
6F5	OBCC	DS-LK98-14G568-AL	DS-LJ98-14G568-AS	Different base part (LK98 → LJ98)
7D0	APIM - Sync	DSNU5T-14G670-BB	DSPU5T-14G670-EF	Different prefix and suffix
730	PSCM - Power Steering Control Module	DSNB3V-3F964-AA	DSNL14-3F964-AB	Different prefix/base code
737	RCM - Restraints Control Module	DS-MB3T-14B321-AA	DS-ML3T-14B321-CB	Different prefix/base part (MB3T → ML3T; AA → CB)
6F0	BCMC - Body control module C	DS-MU5T-14D068-EA	DS-MU5T-14D068-EA	identical
6F2	SODCMC - Side obstacle detection C	DSML3T-14H031-AH	DSML3T-14H031-AH	identical
6F3	SODCMD - Side obstacle detection D	DSML3T-14H031-AH	DSML3T-14H031-AH	identical
706	IPMA	DSPJ6T-14G647-AG	DSPJ6T-14G647-AG	identical
707	DCACB	DSNL38-14G620-BD	DSNL38-14G620-BD	identical
725	WACM - Wireless Charging Module	DSNL1T-19J235-AD	DSNL1T-19J235-AD	identical
731	RFA - Remote Function Actuator	DSNU5T-14G617-AF	DSNU5T-14G617-AF	identical
732	GSM - Gir shift Module	DSML3P-7P427-AH	DSML3P-7P427-AH	identical
733	HVAC	DS-NL3T-18C612-AAC	DS-NL3T-18C612-AAC	identical
746	DCDC - Direct Current Converter Modulke	DSLK98-14B227-AB	DSLK98-14B227-AB	identical
750	PACM - Pedestrian Alert Module	DS-MU5T-14G113-AD	DS-MU5T-14G113-AD	identical
764	CCM - Cruise Control Module	DSML3T-9G768-AE	DSML3T-9G768-AE	identical
765	OCS - Occupant Classifiacation Module	DSNL1B-14B422-AA	DSNL1B-14B422-AA	identical
775	RGTM - Rear Gate Trunk Module	DS-MU5T-14B673-AF	DS-MU5T-14B673-AF	identical
783	DSP - Audio proceessing module	DSH1BT-18B849-AR	DSH1BT-18B849-AR	identical
791	TRM/TBM - Trailer module	DS-MU5T-19J294-AK	DS-MU5T-19J294-AK	identical
7C7	ACCM - Air Condition Control Module	DS-NL3H-19F611-AA	DS-NL3H-19F611-AA	identical
7E0	PCM - Powertrain Control Module	DSNL3A-12A650-AUS	DSNL3A-12A650-AUS	identical
7E7		DSNL38-7S008-BB	DSNL38-7S008-BB	identical
760	ABS	DSPL38-2C219-AA	DSRL38-2C219-BC	Prefix & suffix differ (P→R, AA→BC)
724	SCCM - Steering Column Control Module	DSML3T-14B522-BD	DSRL3T-14B522-BA	Prefix and suffix differ (M→R, BD→BA)
727	ACM - Audio Front Control Module	DSJX7T-18K810-AT	DS-JX7T-18K810-AX	Prefix/Suffix differ (missing hyphen, AT → AX)
754	TCU - Telematic Control Unit Module	DSMU5T-14H074-ABR	DSMU5T-14H074-ABS	Suffix differs (ABR → ABS)
6E3	FHCM - Front hatch control module	DS-PU5T-14F008-AC	DS-PU5T-14F008-AB	Suffix differs (AC → AB)
751	RTM - Radio Transceiver Module	DSML3T-15K619-AC	DSML3T-15K619-AB	Suffix differs (AC → AB)
734	HCM - Headlamp Control Module	DSNL1B-13C148-AG	DSNL1B-13C148-AE	Suffix differs (AG → AE)
7C4	SODL - Side obstacle detection module LH	DSML3T-14H031-AH	DSML3T-14H031-AG	Suffix differs (AH → AG)
7C6	SODR - Side obstacle detection module RH	DSML3T-14H031-AH	DSML3T-14H031-AG	Suffix differs (AH → AG)
744	DSM - Driver front seet module	DS-MU5T-14C708-AJ	DS-MU5T-14C708-AG	Suffix differs (AJ → AG)
7C1	CMR - Camera module rear	DS-ML3T-3G590-AN	DS-ML3T-3G590-AP	Suffix differs (AN → AP)
740	DDM - Driver Door Module	DS-MU5T-14B531-AN	DS-MU5T-14B531-AR	Suffix differs (AN → AR)
741	PDM - Passenger Door Module	DS-MU5T-14B533-AN	DS-MU5T-14B533-AR	Suffix differs (AN → AR)
7E6	SOBDMC - Secondary OnBoard Diag Module	DSNL38-7P120-BE	DSNL38-7P120-BF	Suffix differs (BE → BF)
7E4	BECM - Battery energy control module	DSNL38-10B687-BF	DSNL38-10B687-AH	Suffix differs (BF → AH)
716	GWM - GateWay Module A	DSPU5T-14H474-CAB	DSPU5T-14H474-GAC	Suffix differs (CAB → GAC)
720	IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster	DS-NL3T-1A292-CAE	DS-NL3T-1A292-CAF	Suffix differs (CAE → CAF)
6F6	LDCMA	DSNL7A-13B626-CE	DSNL7A-13B626-CD	Suffix differs (CE → CD)
6F7	LDCMB	DSNL7A-13B626-DE	DSNL7A-13B626-DD	Suffix differs (DE → DD)
7E2	SOBDM BCCM - Battery Charging module	DSPK48-10B689-FA	DSPK48-10B689-AF	Suffix differs (FA → AF)
726	BCM -Cody Control Module	DS-NU5T-14B476-AAG	DS-NU5T-14B476-AAM	Suffix differs (AAG → AAM)
6F1	DCACA - Direct Current/Direct Current Converter A	DSNK38-14G620-AB	DSNL38-14G620-AD	Variant code differs (NK38 → NL38; AB → AD)

 

[RLXXI]

I know the info is in there, but I do not know how to find it in the ab file other than doing a control F and searching for it. However, if you knew what you were looking for, there would be know need to look for it. Best I can think of is let's says you wanted to know the info for the GWM, you would get the ab data and scroll to the bottom and look for 716 where the NODEID portion of the data starts for that module. The info would be somewhere in here:

Yea, all vehicles capable of OTA's sync themselves with the mothership randomly and with every OTA.

Keep in mind the original AB data in some cases is supposed to change with OTA updates (like WAL, BC 1.4, etc). In some case, a frimware update can add new lines of code in a module that weren't there when the vehicle was first built. Your original ab data can eveutually become a problem if you revert back to it after some time.

What year model did they start calling home?

 

[rugedraw]

What year model did they start calling home?

In the case of the F150, in 2021 when they went to Sync 4 and started getting OTA updates.

 

[bmwhitetx]

I know the info is in there, but I do not know how to find it in the ab file other than doing a control F and searching for it.

Yeah, the file is formatted XML so can be a pain to read normally. I created a macro in Excel that will decode an ab file and let me see F188 values for all the VINs in my database. If I wasn't lazy I would try to make a program like As Built Explorer that would show that.

I mainly look and compare the F188 parameter as that seems to correspond to the "software version". Do you have a cheat sheet on what the other Fxxx numbers are? Are they just version numbers of other configuration files that get loaded (side-loaded) or does one of them represent the hardware part number?

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