Farley goes to the White House

[molsonmatt]

Not trying to start a political debate but this doesn’t bode well for the future of the lightning. While I realize that not everyone buys an EV for environmentally conscious reasons, you can’t deny it’s an important bonus. I feel an aggressive policy to encourage the big three to pursue EVs in a more timely manner is a great thing. Was Biden’s policy too aggressive? I don’t know, but having no policy is foolish as other countries around us work to perfect the technology leaving us to catch up or buy from them.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-scrap-bidens-fuel-economy-194212078.html

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[swajames]

I've no idea what Farley actually thinks or wants as it relates to this, but for an event like this one he's basically damned if he did show up and damned if he didn't because it's going to upset someone no matter what he did.

To the wider point, I think you are right.

 

[wkaotp]

The big 3 are not just interested in US Sales, therefore theyre gonna continue with EV development and progress the technology. If the US wants to be the leader in ICE x 2 then consumers will show them how they feel. The EV world is growing massively and the benefits drastically outweigh the cons. We may never get small d!ck Big Truck guy to buy in, but its going to happen.

 

[Jim Lewis]

The NY Times quotes Farley at the meeting as follows:

At the White House event, Jim Farley, the chief executive of Ford Motor Co., pointed out that his company was second in EV sales. “We can make real progress on carbon emissions and energy efficiency while still giving customers choice and affordability,” he said.

 

[RLXXI]

Ford is too deep in this to give up now, that much is certain.

 

[flabrent]

Farley made a business decision to protect investor value.

 

[fhteagle]

We don't need EV subsidies any longer.

We just need fossil fuel subsidies in all forms to go away, and to tax FF enough to make them accountable for their true environmental, health, and other damages.

The choice is a no brainer when all the costs are correctly counted for.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

If we would get rid of all MPG requirements, we would have awesome little trucks like we had in the 80s/90s. We could also stop with the nonsense of shutting the engine off at stop lights. So I'm 100% for getting rid of all MPG requirements.

Another thing to think about, if we had a sweet small little Ranger/S10 available, one of them (or both) would probably turn one into an EV, which I'd absolutely love.

 

[WXman]

Yep, what Farley said is that customers deserve options. And he's right about that. EVs are not best for everyone. In fact they aren't best for a majority of people. There needs to be a full portfolio of options, and Farley is happy that it'll now be easier to do so.

Sadly, we're already seeing gasoline particulate filters on the 3.5 EcoBoost which sucked nearly 20 HP out of that platform. So some of the damage is already done. But hopefully going forward we can keep this policy around and trucks will get less expensive and more reliable again.

And, we're already seeing the lowest gasoline prices in 5 years to go along with it, so maybe this will strengthen ICE programs even more which builds more profit for EVs and other options.

 

[Heliian]

We may never get small d!ck Big Truck guy to buy in, but its going to happen.

He bought his truck and modified it to be the fastest around. He's no longer the fastest, he will eventually do the same to a used ev truck to once again regain the title. In the meantime, I will continue to infuriate them. Lightning drivers have essentially eclipsed BMW drivers in terms of hate. Everyone expects a car to be faster than their truck.

 

[Aminorjourney]

1) I am not surprised 2) I am not surprised 3) Can I wake up now?

 

[sotek2345]

Not trying to start a political debate but this doesn’t bode well for the future of the lightning. While I realize that not everyone buys an EV for environmentally conscious reasons, you can’t deny it’s an important bonus. I feel an aggressive policy to encourage the big three to pursue EVs in a more timely manner is a great thing. Was Biden’s policy too aggressive? I don’t know, but having no policy is foolish as other countries around us work to perfect the technology leaving us to catch up or buy from them.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-scrap-bidens-fuel-economy-194212078.html

From my perspective, I would argue that Biden's policy was mostly toothless and not nearly aggressive enough. I too would like to see taxes on fossil fuels that fully account for the damage they cause, but not many would be happy at ~$15 to $20 per gallon for gas.

 

[WXman]

From my perspective, I would argue that Biden's policy was mostly toothless and not nearly aggressive enough. I too would like to see taxes on fossil fuels that fully account for the damage they cause, but not many would be happy at ~$15 to $20 per gallon for gas.

Problem with that fallacy is that a majority of electricity is generated with fossil fuels, and in the eastern U.S. it's typically a large majority. So an idiotic tax on fossil fuels would not only drive up the cost of gas and diesel, it would also drive up the cost of electricity even more than it already has. We ALL get screwed in that scenario.

 

[sotek2345]

Problem with that fallacy is that a majority of electricity is generated with fossil fuels, and in the eastern U.S. it's typically a large majority. So an idiotic tax on fossil fuels would not only drive up the cost of gas and diesel, it would also drive up the cost of electricity even more than it already has. We ALL get screwed in that scenario.

I am fully aware and understand that. However, after looking at the climate data over the last few years I am convinced that if we don't take DRASTIC action now, there won't be much of a future left to worry about. Better to suffer now and try to preserve some of what we have.

That said, I know many others don't feel the same or don't believe the data at all, and this is a democracy, so my thoughts and $5 might get you a small coffee at a local coffee shop!

 

[RLXXI]

I am fully aware and understand that. However, after looking at the climate data over the last few years I am convinced that if we don't take DRASTIC action now, there won't be much of a future left to worry about. Better to suffer now and try to preserve some of what we have.

That said, I know many others don't feel the same or don't believe the data at all, and this is a democracy, so my thoughts and $5 might get you a small coffee at a local coffee shop!

The earth has been going thru heating and cooling cycles for millions of years. Climate change is a natural cycle.

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