I love this truck but GD!

[Pioneer74]

Electric vehicles aren't for everybody. Sell the truck, OP. It ain't working out.

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[blitzlinger]

IMO if you live anywhere the temperature is at or below 20 degrees regular in the winter then EV's (all of them) are not worth it.... Here in southern Mississippi if it gets below 32 degrees people lose there minds

Nevermind this seems to be OP's only vehicle, which is a ballsy move in ND as far as EV ownership is concerned. I have been through -10f and colder temps in a Tesla for weeks, and it requires a lot of planning and battery preconditioning.

 

[Kit2874]

Electric vehicles aren't for everybody. Sell the truck, OP. It ain't working out.

Have to agree,

Nevermind this seems to be OP's only vehicle, which is a ballsy move in ND as far as EV ownership is concerned. I have been through -10f and colder temps in a Tesla for weeks, and it require

Nevermind this seems to be OP's only vehicle, which is a ballsy move in ND as far as EV ownership is concerned. I have been through -10f and colder temps in a Tesla for weeks, and it requires a lot of planning and battery preconditioning.

Wow, the OP lives in North Dakota. Yeah, there ain't no way on God's green earth I'd buy an EV poor planing on op part

 

[TMND]

Nevermind this seems to be OP's only vehicle, which is a ballsy move in ND as far as EV ownership is concerned. I have been through -10f and colder temps in a Tesla for weeks, and it requires a lot of planning and battery preconditioning.

I thought I had done all my homework. Watched hours and hours of videos and read everything available to me. Nothing indicted anywhere I would get my range cut to less than 1/3 in cold.

I knew it wouldn’t be easy. But I wanted to prove it was still feasible here. I know now it is not. But again nothing anywhere said range reduction would be this severe. The only info I found that said that this absolutely wasn’t gonna work was parody content made by EV haters which I chose to disregard. I’ll agree that was a poor choice. Should’ve trusted the EV haters I guess.

 

[Kit2874]

I thought I had done all my homework. Watched hours and hours of videos and read everything available to me. Nothing indicted anywhere I would get my range cut to less than 1/3 in cold.

I knew it wouldn’t be easy. But I wanted to prove it was still feasible here. I know now it is not. But again nothing anywhere said range reduction would be this severe. The only info I found that said that this absolutely wasn’t gonna work was parody content made by EV haters which I chose to disregard. I’ll agree that was a poor choice. Should’ve trusted the EV haters I guess.

Has nothing to do with trusting EV haters, every study I've ever seen about EVs, once the temperature gets in the single digits, expect anywhere.

anywhere from 35% to 45% battery loss... And with the average temperature in January in North Dakota, two degrees, I mean...

 

[TMND]

Has nothing to do with trusting EV haters, every study I've ever seen about EVs, once the temperature gets in the single digits, expect anywhere.

anywhere from 35% to 45% battery loss... And with the average temperature in January in North Dakota, two degrees, I mean...

I was aware of that…. This is over 60 percent loss though.

 

[jamelski]

OP this is why people don’t live in North Dakota ??‍with less than a million. F that cold and even ev like f that cold ? sorry brother. I’d say drive slower and you definitely have to use preconditioning everywhere you go and it doesn’t look like you can drive to your hockey Arena plug-in and set preconditioning for your ride back then you have no problem

 

[Kit2874]

I was aware of that…. This is over 60 percent loss though.

And some of that loss is on you because I guarantee you you're not preconditioning your battery right before you leave.

 

[TMND]

Less than 1 mile per percent

 

[TMND]

And some of that loss is on you because I guarantee you you're not preconditioning your battery right before you leave.

How can you precondition from a parking lot? I was out. Also, if you look at the first picture, the temperature on the battery isn’t bad. I also hit a fast charger to heat it up a little before we left.

 

[Kit2874]

How can you precondition from a parking lot? I was out. Also, if you look at the first picture, the temperature on the battery isn’t bad. I also hit a fast charger to heat it up a little before we left.

Well, it is what it is, and your last sentence speaks volumes. Hey, OP., my recommendation get rid of the truck. Good luck!

 

[detansinn]

Norway is colder than most of the US and they don't have problems using EVs in the cold.

Keeping your truck plugged into a Level 2 charger goes a long way.
I did 3+ hours of highway driving this morning with temps in the low 20s, driving 65-70 and still saw a convincing 200 mile-ish range with my 2023 Lariat ER. This has been my experience, even up in the hinterlands of Maine.

If I wasn't plugged in and didn't precondition like I did this morning (while plugged in), my efficiency this morning would have been much worse.

Plugging in L2 overnight to keep the pack warm along with preconditioning are key parts of winter EV ownership. Leveraging the heated seats, etc and not having the heat cranked up so high help as well. If you've got a sunroof, having the shade open to let in the sunlight also helps.

 

[F150ROD]

IMO if you live anywhere the temperature is at or below 20 degrees regular in the winter then EV's (all of them) are not worth it.... Here in southern Mississippi if it gets below 32 degrees people lose there minds

Agreed. The lowest we get in my area is 30 degrees, and I start having second thoughts but then we go back up in temp. -8, no way I would own an EV for long trips in the winter....

 

[blitzlinger]

I was aware of that…. This is over 60 percent loss though.

Do you have an OBD2 scanner? I'm curious of the pack temp as well as the battery coolant inlet/outlet temps and if it's functioning properly. I expected about 40% loss, from experience, but 60% is excessive.

 

[astrand1]

Rick….. I am fully capable of making sure I have enough charge at any given time on a PLANNED trip but 1 mile per1% no matter how you plan it is still unacceptable. I don’t look at the range. I look at the percent and that’s what I use. I know I need so much percent for so much. And as I’ve said multiple times now. This ain’t cold!!! We’re just scratching the surface here so I’m assuming that eventually it will be half a mile per one percent. And with the nearest town being 45 miles away from me, any kind of emergency situation this just will not work. And it would be moronic me to continue to try.

imagine after leaving home with a 100% charged battery and going to a hospital 45 miles away for an emergency room visit after getting stitched up and dealing with all the hassle of that you go “oh shoot I gotta hit a charger just to make it home” it’s not about it being the wrong truck for me. It’s the wrong truck for anybody that experiences what I would call a real winter.

Then what happens if a 40 mile an hour wind picks up halfway home all of a sudden what was enough charge to get home aint enough charge to get to the next turn.

I drove a brand new F150 ice while this was at the dealer super nice truck, but I did not like it….I love my lightning, but sometimes you gotta love them and leave them I guess

Well you could also get a cheap “beater” for winters and keep the lightning. It’s unfortunately not the right truck for all situations that’s for sure. My wife has a blazer ev and I have the lightning and we have an older escape hybrid as an extra car kind of a “just in case” but it’s nice insurance knowing it’s there.

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