What gives 17 years from now?

[RLXXI]

None of those are shared with the Mach E. Different manufactures. Some of the 10 year old infotainment tech is about the only thing shared.

That's not what one of the arm chair experts in here stated a while back. Perhaps they were mistaken.

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[ClevelandBeemer]

Ford says they'll support Lightning through 2035. I firmly believe that by 2030 new driveline parts for Lightning will become hard to get from dealers, and by 2035 finding critical driveline parts will be a search of eBay and salvage yards.

So if you plan to keep one of these trucks on the road for the next 30 years all I can say is good luck.

I think this is a pragmatic view of the situation but we just don’t know.

If Ford actually produces the EREV, then the suspension, BMS, inverters, onboard charger, drive units, and cooling components from the Lightning will be utilized. This would ensure parts and software support for the considerable future.

 

[MaintGrl]

AI is complete nonsense and will probably lead to the death of our civilization if not our species. It has no real knoweldge, just a probablistic prediction of what the next word in a sentance should be.

Yes, we think we are so'oo smart.
Why the human race keeps designing thing to kill us all off, I will never understand (Greed). One of the current reasons is climate change...It will make this place unbearable , Now AI, sure they are using it to find breast cancers that the human eye can't detect, but it is just sweetening the pot . . of hot water with the frog swimming around..(so to speak)
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[WXman]

I think this is a pragmatic view of the situation but we just don’t know.

If Ford actually produces the EREV, then the suspension, BMS, inverters, onboard charger, drive units, and cooling components from the Lightning will be utilized. This would ensure parts and software support for the considerable future.

They certainly could do that. And it could be argued that they should do that. But I think saying they will do that is a stretch. Since the engine will take up quite a bit of space in the chassis, Ford would likely revise the position of all the electrical components and that would likely require redesign of them too, which means new part numbers and no backward compatibility.

Ebay, salvage yards, and the possibility of 3rd party tech companies making parts will be the future for the 3rd Gen Lightning trucks just in my opinion.

 

[JRDM2]

If the OP wanted generated content they could have just gone to Gemini or wherever. It's not like we don't know it's available, FFS the big tech companies are trying to push it everywhere they can.

 

[MaintGrl]

If the OP wanted generated content they could have just gone to Gemini or wherever. It's not like we don't know it's available, FFS the big tech companies are trying to push it everywhere they can.

Yes, getting VERY pervasive IMHO

 

[MountainAlive]

I’ve kept alive every vehicle I’ve owed for 15+ years, even in the case of the collapse of Saab. Somehow there’s salvage parts available and when “closed” systems get abandoned, communities find ways to hack it back to life.

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

Since the engine will take up quite a bit of space in the chassis, Ford would likely revise the position of all the electrical components and that would likely require redesign of them too, which means new part numbers and no backward compatibility.

No doubt. We’ll have to see what they do. What they do with the generator really is the critical question. Unless they find a way to house it when the spare tire goes, then the funk has to go. But to get a positive charge rate under load while towing, Ford is going to have to identify a beefy generator solution.

Who knows if it’ll even happen or if there has been literally any development before Ford made the announcement.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Rumor has it motors, batteries and most modules are shared with the Mach E and that's not going any where.

How accurate that info is remains to be seen.

From what i recall 3 years ago, the Mach e’s rear motor is the lightnings front motor.

 

[RLXXI]

No doubt. We’ll have to see what they do. What they do with the generator really is the critical question. Unless they find a way to house it when the spare tire goes, then the funk has to go. But to get a positive charge rate under load while towing, Ford is going to have to identify a beefy generator solution.

Who knows if it’ll even happen or if there has been literally any development before Ford made the announcement.

Makes me wonder if they just put out the info to see reaction among the public before they decide to build.

 

[Upstate]

Back in September of 2022, when my then eight year old grandson and I went to the dealer to pick up the Lightning XLT, I told him that in 2031 or 32, when he turns 17, I was giving him the keys to the truck. Even then he was a pretty tech-savvy kid and he responded, "Won't it be obsolete by then?"

I laughed at how whiz-bang fascinated I was about this revolutionary technology and how blasé he was about still another hype over tech. I also dismissed his concerns as just a funny reaction by an eight year old projecting out to his teenage years.

Then Ford reported a pause in Lightning production, followed by the death knell announcement of, after just three years, the end of the model altogether. I started to think that my grandson was on to something.

I agree with other commenters here that the shared parts with other Ford models (ICE F150 and e-Mustangs) and the likelihood that the EREV 150 will just be a re-woorking of the Lightning will make complete obsolecence unlikely, and maybe it won't be 2032, but some time before the truck expires naturally, I now anticipate problems with keeping it on the road forever (that's how I drive cars. I've given away a couple cars with over 250,000 miles on the odometer and even held on to sub compact econmy cars for 200K+ miles). Alternatively, it will probably also impact resale value in an extremely negative way (it already has).

All that said, I have no regrets. Nearly 30,000 miles later, with several long distance trips behind us (smaller battery, by the way), the vehicle has proven to be one of my favorite drives of all times. While I charge from home probably no less than 95% of the time, each long distance trip brings greater ease and availability of on the road charging. There have been virtually no service issues. Even the tires are still in good shape (given the weight, I was anticipating spending a lot of money replacing worn out tires!).

I am sorry Ford decided to not stick it out. On the bright side, I am kind of hoping my grandson doesn't want the truck when he comes of age. That way I can keep driving it!!!

Figure I’ll add another 6000 miles a year to the ‘23 ER Lariat for a total mileage of around 156,000 miles by say 2043.

Charge at home, dink around the local area. I’m curious of what serious component fail is most likely? And could new technology provide a work around or render something moot like software?

Could the Lighting BEV be a niche vehicle of a run of 100,000 that’s enough to warrant a cult following? Will an EMP render it trash or say a motor goes out… what about 1 motor drive?

I’ve a drawer full of old useless cell phones. Plus a few laptops, iPads, & towers. Technology moves on. What do you all think?

The 2010 Adrenalin (below) was a low volume ICE niche trucklet assembled from various part bins with a few custom body panels. A collector ended up with ours and found most parts still available after 15 years. Used a lot of parts common to its Explorer BOF including AWD, 6 speed tranny, 4.6 V8, etc.

1 of 100,000

1 of 6,000

 

[chl]

I am guessing it will be its connectivity that goes first and along with some strange system that will refuse to function without an internet heartbeat. We will beg Ford to open source and they won't. The revamped CPFB will issue a lawsuit against Ford that goes all the way to the Supreme Court but in a scathing decision by Supreme Court Justice Logan Paul, Ford succeeds and we scrap our trucks for the batteries.

That's what happened to my 2012 Nissan Leaf when ATT abandoned the lower-G systems for 5G and up. The car still runs.

Expect the battery to lose 1-2% per year just due to aging.

So in 2043, that could be as much as 40% loss of capacity.

So will the truck still meet your needs with 60% or less range than it had new?

Or will there be an after market battery swap available like there are for the Leaf with better capacity and range?

 

[chl]

Ford says they'll support Lightning through 2035. I firmly believe that by 2030 new driveline parts for Lightning will become hard to get from dealers, and by 2035 finding critical driveline parts will be a search of eBay and salvage yards.

Technology is moving fast. Federal policy is changing like people change underwear. Ford is already chomping at the bit to move to the next thing in the automotive world. I don't see any way they are still making and selling new parts for the Lightning, which was already outdated two years ago, in the year 2035.

So if you plan to keep one of these trucks on the road for the next 30 years all I can say is good luck. If your pockets are deep, the challenge might actually be fun and enjoyable.

And by then China could own the EV world the way things are going maybe driving the US auto industry into the dust the way Japan almost did (without prior tax payer Gov't bailouts where would they be?)

My crystal ball says: "Who can predict that far in the future? Live for today, be in the moment!"

 

[swajames]

I don't expect our trucks will be obsolete by then, but aftermarket support is key. Chances are there will be an aftermarket ecosystem of vendors who can fix batteries, recondition motors, swap out infotainment etc. Another issue, and again where the aftermarket may well step up, is the app and connectivity. But our trucks will be far from the only ones with this predicament.

 

[Jseis]

I could’ve but really was not interested. Here’s the thing… anyone using BlueCruise/lane centering/hands free etc. is using A.I. Rain sensing windshield wipers... automated but not predictive.

Forums are well known for supposed “subject matter experts”. In the world I trained in that came from documented peer review. That meant documented data, repeatable observation-experiment, etc. A.I. in the context here is akin to super fancy book reviews & literature reviews and A.I. responses are getting better at quoting sources. That being said, there’s a historical site I’m on where forum members pontificate about the size of their libraries… implying that the’ve read and understand all the books.

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