Jseis
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We’ve driven the SR MME and Lightning ER a combined 80K+ miles coming up on 3 years. The MME has 52,000 and the LT 18,000. I roll 2K a month so 80K by July!!
The mileage would represent 4000 gallons of gas (20 mpg on the former well driven turbo Flex and V8 Adrenalin) so that’s about $18,000 in fuel gross savings with a net of around $16,000+. Between the two BEVs we’ve spent about $2,000 on electricity with most charge at home and rare EA charges. Historically speaking, I’d get oil changes every 5K so there’s 16 less oil changes replaced by 8 tire rotations-inspections. And of course the ICE maintenance included filters, fluids, plugs, coil packs, brake pads, as well as occasional wheel bearings, CV joints, etc. I would expect BEVs are no different on wear and tear though the elimination of heat damage is huge.
The MME’s tires are in excellent shape and they’ll look to roll to 75-80K. We charge at home with the a Charge Point Home Flex and as noted, occasional EA charging on the road. Both BEVs have been to Montana and back with no issues.
The ER LT is the long range warrior whereas the MME is the go-to around town, into the city car. Easy to navigate Seattle, Portland or the state capitol.
The long term mi/kWh for the LT is ~2.5 and the MME is ~3.5. Our $.0634/kwh for power is dirt cheap and is the real deal closer on BEV ownership. Both vehicles are garaged and preconditioned if used and particularly in the winter months Nov-February where mornings can be in the 30’s & icy. We do not have bitter Midwest cold but we deal with wind and rain, road debris. I hit a deer with the MME and that was a $6,000 repair.
In terms of OTA, etc, the MME has downloaded flawlessly. The LT is due a BMS replacement which should clear up its wonky electrical error messaging which hasn’t impacted performance but appears to have interfered with OTAs.
My crew razed me about the BEVs initially, though as I pile on the miles and fuel prices stay around $4.5-$5.0/gallon, they all get the long term future and daily cost savings on my daily 90 mile commute. Every gear head I know talks about “it is the future”, and there are 4 Lightnings in county now & we all know each other. I see more MMEs on the road as well. The balance of BEVs I see on the road are Teslas though no local Rivians or KIAs yet.
I view the two BEVs long term durability as “good” given the minor issues to date. As I’ll be retired in a year, the annual mileage will drop and the life of battery & component parts extends. There’s little doubt in my mind that these vehicles won’t see 200K miles. The lack of ICE heat damage & basic wear bodes well for electric vehicles though ultimate battery chemistry & longevity remains unknown. My parents Maytag freezer & fridge were given away in running condition after 50 years service
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It is possible that our BEVs are the last vehicles we ever buy. That I know of, we are the only in-county 100% BEV household. Most are traditional ICE, then occasional hybrid with Prius & Mavericks common, though ICE Mavericks are becoming common too.
When BEVs drop into the low $30K or high $20K it’ll be game over by my estimation. Most are out of range in price for the average consumer and charging prices are too $$. I do see a coming grid issue with electricity demand and it’ll be interesting to watch how society responds in terms of future energy investment. While I’m fascinated with off the grid thoughts, the value proposition isn’t there for us to put in our own solar array & battery storage-inverter system.
What I do know? Never going back to ICE. I keep my ‘41 Ford 9N as the reminder of the past.
The mileage would represent 4000 gallons of gas (20 mpg on the former well driven turbo Flex and V8 Adrenalin) so that’s about $18,000 in fuel gross savings with a net of around $16,000+. Between the two BEVs we’ve spent about $2,000 on electricity with most charge at home and rare EA charges. Historically speaking, I’d get oil changes every 5K so there’s 16 less oil changes replaced by 8 tire rotations-inspections. And of course the ICE maintenance included filters, fluids, plugs, coil packs, brake pads, as well as occasional wheel bearings, CV joints, etc. I would expect BEVs are no different on wear and tear though the elimination of heat damage is huge.
The MME’s tires are in excellent shape and they’ll look to roll to 75-80K. We charge at home with the a Charge Point Home Flex and as noted, occasional EA charging on the road. Both BEVs have been to Montana and back with no issues.
The ER LT is the long range warrior whereas the MME is the go-to around town, into the city car. Easy to navigate Seattle, Portland or the state capitol.
The long term mi/kWh for the LT is ~2.5 and the MME is ~3.5. Our $.0634/kwh for power is dirt cheap and is the real deal closer on BEV ownership. Both vehicles are garaged and preconditioned if used and particularly in the winter months Nov-February where mornings can be in the 30’s & icy. We do not have bitter Midwest cold but we deal with wind and rain, road debris. I hit a deer with the MME and that was a $6,000 repair.
In terms of OTA, etc, the MME has downloaded flawlessly. The LT is due a BMS replacement which should clear up its wonky electrical error messaging which hasn’t impacted performance but appears to have interfered with OTAs.
My crew razed me about the BEVs initially, though as I pile on the miles and fuel prices stay around $4.5-$5.0/gallon, they all get the long term future and daily cost savings on my daily 90 mile commute. Every gear head I know talks about “it is the future”, and there are 4 Lightnings in county now & we all know each other. I see more MMEs on the road as well. The balance of BEVs I see on the road are Teslas though no local Rivians or KIAs yet.
I view the two BEVs long term durability as “good” given the minor issues to date. As I’ll be retired in a year, the annual mileage will drop and the life of battery & component parts extends. There’s little doubt in my mind that these vehicles won’t see 200K miles. The lack of ICE heat damage & basic wear bodes well for electric vehicles though ultimate battery chemistry & longevity remains unknown. My parents Maytag freezer & fridge were given away in running condition after 50 years service
! It is possible that our BEVs are the last vehicles we ever buy. That I know of, we are the only in-county 100% BEV household. Most are traditional ICE, then occasional hybrid with Prius & Mavericks common, though ICE Mavericks are becoming common too.
When BEVs drop into the low $30K or high $20K it’ll be game over by my estimation. Most are out of range in price for the average consumer and charging prices are too $$. I do see a coming grid issue with electricity demand and it’ll be interesting to watch how society responds in terms of future energy investment. While I’m fascinated with off the grid thoughts, the value proposition isn’t there for us to put in our own solar array & battery storage-inverter system.
What I do know? Never going back to ICE. I keep my ‘41 Ford 9N as the reminder of the past.
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