Do I need to run new 400 amp service in my house for the Lightning + everything else?

[Kanuck]

I agree with different charging rates, but with no real metered or monitored data as to what it will be like, other than hear say. Who knows?

One other thought has come to mind, with all the new EV units being sold, will hydro be able to supply the power requirements needed to charge all these EV's or will they have to upgrade the power grid and generator stations? And who will pay for all the upgrades? How long will it take the utility company to do the upgrades as required? Until the upgrades are completed, what will be restrictions placed on my consumption? Everybody that uses hydro will end up paying for the upgrades. That being said, I question why I have to pay a higher rate for my hydro so others can drive EV's.

Where I live, for me to drive from Winnipeg to Calgary (approx 875 miles) with a EV, I am looking at 3 days. That is assuming a range of 300 miles. Not counting reducing in range due to load, driving conditions and weather. With my truck, I can drive it in 14 hours.

I know, I am a shit disturber. Just questions that come to mind and just put out there for discussion.

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[RonTCat]

Where I live, for me to drive from Winnipeg to Calgary (approx 875 miles) with a EV, I am looking at 3 days. That is assuming a range of 300 miles. Not counting reducing in range due to load, driving conditions and weather. With my truck, I can drive it in 14 hours.

875m/70mph=12.5 hours
20-80% charge=40 minutes (.66hrs)
300*60%charge =180 miles. To get to 875m, need 4 charges
Total time for EV trip = 12.5 + .66*4 = 15.14 hrs

So about an hour and 10 minutes more in an EV. If weather is very cold, you might have to stop for an extra charge or two. Or if you had a couple thousand pounds of stuff in the bed.

 

[adoublee]

Everybody that uses hydro will end up paying for the upgrades.

Aren't the people buying more electricity paying for the upgrades by purchasing the product being sold? Or, if the entire system is socialized it depends on the where the costs fall in the morality hierarchy and apples for apples fairness is already a non-factor.

 

[Kanuck]

875m/70mph=12.5 hours
20-80% charge=40 minutes (.66hrs)
300*60%charge =180 miles. To get to 875m, need 4 charges
Total time for EV trip = 12.5 + .66*4 = 15.14 hrs

So about an hour and 10 minutes more in an EV. If weather is very cold, you might have to stop for an extra charge or two. Or if you had a couple thousand pounds of stuff in the bed.

that is if you can find a fast charge station somewhere along the road. On the prairies towns a few and far between. Speed limit is 100 km...62 mph. What towns there are on the trans Canada you go through them not around and have to slow down.

 

[Tomf]

https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=77045eea-754d-42b9-970c-e16d94462413

here is a route. 13 hours 17 minutes of driving and 3 hours of charging around the route gets you from Winnipeg to Calgary.

 

[Kanuck]

https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=77045eea-754d-42b9-970c-e16d94462413

here is a route. 13 hours 17 minutes of driving and 3 hours of charging around the route gets you from Winnipeg to Calgary.

Thanks...

 

[rjhedrich]

I am the OP and went thru all the steps with multiple lis electric pros and all stated I am capped at 60 amps. So I am capped with the 48 amp charger. I am getting the extended battery which will come with the 80 amp unit. Can I install the 80 amp unit and it will downstep to 48 amps or do I need to sell it.

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

I am the OP and went thru all the steps with multiple lis electric pros and all stated I am capped at 60 amps. So I am capped with the 48 amp charger. I am getting the extended battery which will come with the 80 amp unit. Can I install the 80 amp unit and it will downstep to 48 amps or do I need to sell it.

I would sell it and buy the other charger personally. Get a little bit of money back and maximize your available throughput without going overkill. You could put the money back into the truck (tint, custom floor mats...etc).

 

[rjhedrich]

I would sell it and buy the other charger personally. Get a little bit of money back and maximize your available throughput without going overkill. You could put the money back into the truck (tint, custom floor mats...etc).

That what I was think too. I can get a good smart 48 amp charger for 500.

 

[metroshot]

That what I was think too. I can get a good smart 48 amp charger for 500.

Any idea on price of Ford's 48A charger??

 

[BennyTheBeaver]

That what I was think too. I can get a good smart 48 amp charger for 500.

Some have rebates too...

Where I live Portland General Electric has $500 rebate for a ChargePoint charger (https://www.chargepoint.com/drivers/home/). That would drop the price from $699 to $199.

 

[sotek2345]

Any idea on price of Ford's 48A charger??

Looks like $799

https://www.oemfordpart.com/oem-par...P3umr-PrO4ObNqVLtx7vDX3YcDNUOebhoC7WcQAvD_BwE

 

[rjhedrich]

Looks like $799

https://www.oemfordpart.com/oem-par...P3umr-PrO4ObNqVLtx7vDX3YcDNUOebhoC7WcQAvD_BwE

This the one I am going with Emporia Smart Electric Vehicle (EV) Charger | Up to 48 Amp | Level 2 WiFi Enabled EVSE | NEMA 14-50 or Hardwired | Indoor/Outdoor Charging Station | 24-Ft Cable

 

[shutterbug]

This the one I am going with Emporia Smart Electric Vehicle (EV) Charger | Up to 48 Amp | Level 2 WiFi Enabled EVSE | NEMA 14-50 or Hardwired | Indoor/Outdoor Charging Station | 24-Ft Cable

It isn't currently UL certified. I think they are working on that, but I would personally stick to those that have been certified.

 

[personalt]

i am op and have had two electrical contractor review my current set up . Using the nerc rules I don’t have the headroom in my current set up. I have 200 service to my house and my house mostly electric with two 5 ton ac units, electric stove, double oven , washer dryer and pool pump i have head room for 48 amp charger only . The only way I can get the 80 amp which needs headroom of 100 I would have to run a 400 run from the street. The cost been quote $15,000 to $18,000 and that not in the budget. I wanted the platinum ext battery is able to be charged with a 48 charger . I assume I would loose the automatic back up to the house. I just looking for directions.

Did any of these contractors put an AMP meter on the panel and have you run 'all your stuff?' If not they are just guessing. (Unless they went around the whole house and wrote down the values from all the appliance plates and counted lights). You can get a really good idea of usage yourself with a clamp meter for $20 from home depot. Pull the cover, put the clamp meter on one side, turn on the max stuff you think you might run and see what the usage is

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