TexasGuy
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Here are some things I think I've figured out.
1) Each dealer got one and only one allocation from the first wave.
2) Ford did this to give every dealership a chance to work through the kinks and get experience without a crush of pushy buyers (us!
) flooding them with calls and visits.
3) The allocations for the first and subsequent waves are either by a) dealer priority if they indeed did it prior to the December deadline or, b) if not, then by timestamp of reservations assigned to their dealership.
4) This means that if you are # 1 at a dealership (by the priorities mentioned in # 3 above), you would be in the first wave.
5) Subsequent waves will be bigger.
6) Ford will build between 15k -20k in 2022, so if you ordered in the first 48 hours (Ford previously stated they got 20k orders in the first 48 hours), you should get a vehicle this year, assuming you don't defer.
7) Ford has budgeted builds based upon that chart they previously provided the dealers (the most will be Lariat +'s, then Platinums, etc.). The are doing this because it is easiest and most efficient to make a large number with the fewest variations and they are also the most profitable vehicles.
8) They are making some of the Pros and XLTs in the first year, which is a lot better than Tesla has done with new models. Even Chevy and Hummer are exclusively producing the most expensive models first.
8) Given the battery sizes and the comparison to the Rivian's batteries and EPA's #'s, the 230 and 300 estimates are pretty accurate: -0% + 5%. (The Rivian is a few lbs. heavier than the Lightning and a bit smaller and probably more aerodynamic as it was a clean sheet design. It also has 4 motors, so I'm betting that for the most part the these things cancel each other out. I believe their 135KW battery gives them an EPA range of 314 miles and the Lightning's Large battery is 131 KW.)
10) If anyone thinks they will really get that range out of a 'tank' in normal use, they are kidding themselves. (As pilots say, "The only time you have too much fuel is when you are on fire.") Seriously, between accessories, weather, traveling faster the the EPA estimates, age on the battery, not charging to 100% or draining to 15%-20% and just the peace of mind, every extra KW is worth it.
11) Ford is actually doing a pretty good job and doing it in a reasonable fashion. Their communication can be improved, as can the process, but compared to they peers (Tesla & Rivian) their way ahead of the curve.
Just my humble opinions. YMMV.
Full disclosure: I drive a model S and have a early deposit on a Rivian and could have ordered the initial limited model, but because I want/need the largest ("Max") battery will have to wait until the "First half of 2023" If they actually meet that promise.
1) Each dealer got one and only one allocation from the first wave.
2) Ford did this to give every dealership a chance to work through the kinks and get experience without a crush of pushy buyers (us!
) flooding them with calls and visits.3) The allocations for the first and subsequent waves are either by a) dealer priority if they indeed did it prior to the December deadline or, b) if not, then by timestamp of reservations assigned to their dealership.
4) This means that if you are # 1 at a dealership (by the priorities mentioned in # 3 above), you would be in the first wave.
5) Subsequent waves will be bigger.
6) Ford will build between 15k -20k in 2022, so if you ordered in the first 48 hours (Ford previously stated they got 20k orders in the first 48 hours), you should get a vehicle this year, assuming you don't defer.
7) Ford has budgeted builds based upon that chart they previously provided the dealers (the most will be Lariat +'s, then Platinums, etc.). The are doing this because it is easiest and most efficient to make a large number with the fewest variations and they are also the most profitable vehicles.
8) They are making some of the Pros and XLTs in the first year, which is a lot better than Tesla has done with new models. Even Chevy and Hummer are exclusively producing the most expensive models first.
8) Given the battery sizes and the comparison to the Rivian's batteries and EPA's #'s, the 230 and 300 estimates are pretty accurate: -0% + 5%. (The Rivian is a few lbs. heavier than the Lightning and a bit smaller and probably more aerodynamic as it was a clean sheet design. It also has 4 motors, so I'm betting that for the most part the these things cancel each other out. I believe their 135KW battery gives them an EPA range of 314 miles and the Lightning's Large battery is 131 KW.)
10) If anyone thinks they will really get that range out of a 'tank' in normal use, they are kidding themselves. (As pilots say, "The only time you have too much fuel is when you are on fire.") Seriously, between accessories, weather, traveling faster the the EPA estimates, age on the battery, not charging to 100% or draining to 15%-20% and just the peace of mind, every extra KW is worth it.
11) Ford is actually doing a pretty good job and doing it in a reasonable fashion. Their communication can be improved, as can the process, but compared to they peers (Tesla & Rivian) their way ahead of the curve.
Just my humble opinions. YMMV.
Full disclosure: I drive a model S and have a early deposit on a Rivian and could have ordered the initial limited model, but because I want/need the largest ("Max") battery will have to wait until the "First half of 2023" If they actually meet that promise.
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