Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

[SNBI18]

Wow this is shocking but kind of expected. The expected part is that the market for an EV full size truck in this country is not strong. The larger portion of truck owners that looked down at this truck are stubborn and refuse to accept changes in not only technology but life. They think a gas-powered truck is more inferior. When in reality outside of towing the lightning outperforms the gas truck in all levels. EV for me means nothing political, I'm certainly not a tree hugger. I love hunting, guns, my boots, and my family. For someone like myself I'm very logical and the performance that you get out of this vehicle, the quiet ride, and the absence of having to stop to get gas was a no-brainer. The vehicle's I choose to drive are about the experience and about the technology and performance. The truck is 4wd all the time, tech updates, the list goes on. I do not want to go back to putting gas in my vehicle. I also don't want a generator powering my EV battery. I don't want to go back to hearing noise in my vehicle. If Ford was up to date with their technology and a solid state battery was used the towing and range concerns would disappear. Get rid of the dumb light bar and make the truck look more like the gas F-150 and your audience will increase. The marking for this truck was zero to none, your dealerships knew nothing about this truck and talked down on it, I live in NJ btw. Ford has always been behind, they no longer make sedans because they failed at it. The brand could be great but their leadership team has no vision. Sad. No idea what I'll be sitting in 1.5 years from now when this truck goes back on lease.

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[The Weatherman]

Much more work than I planned to do. Hahaha. Looks good.
My back of envelope scribbles got me to 100 bhp for Gen set of 40% efficiency.
Like you say, it ain’t gonna be a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine in the bed of the truck.

Might be 1000cc though.

 

[Lomilar]

Might be 1000cc though.

While that could be fine to supplement power while the battery is draining, the exercise was 80mph -- which ended up being 60kw. 28kw is about 60mph sustained. Still super cool.

 

[Ford Motor Company]

First of all, thank you to everyone for the candid feedback and discussions in this forum. I have been sharing common themes with management. I want to triple down on something initially shared. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. We are also committed to ensuring ongoing support of our vehicles’ software quality and experience.

As for existing Lightning customers who might be coming off lease or looking or a new Lightning, we are looking at the following:

• Assist early adopters to purchase or lease a new 25MY Lightning
• Offering extensions to customers who wish to extend their leases beyond the original term
• Providing dealer support to help match customer with available inventory

Sharing more information on the above as I get my hands on it.

• We have good dealer stock of F-150 Lightning now and more in transit to dealers for those who may want one
• We expect to have F-150 Lightning inventory into 2026, so there is plenty of opportunity for customers to get a Lightning for many months
• We will have early bird and renewal programs in place to support returning F-150 Lightning lessees and owners to get into another truck
• We will add additional programs next year to extend leases for customers interested in our new electric (UEV) pickup truck coming in 2027
• We will add additional programs to support off-lease customers who are interested in purchasing their F-150L and keep it for a long time
• Ford Power Promise continues in 2026

 

[Tony Burgh]

While that could be fine to supplement power while the battery is draining, the exercise was 80mph -- which ended up being 60kw. 28kw is about 60mph sustained. Still super cool.

Thanks for input.
I was going to comment “I CAN‘T DRIVE 55”.

 

[Warp Asylum]

First of all, thank you to everyone for the candid feedback and discussions in this forum. I have been sharing common themes with management. I want to triple down on something initially shared. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. We are also committed to ensuring ongoing support of our vehicles’ software quality and experience.


Sharing more information on the above as I get my hands on it.

• We have good dealer stock of F-150 Lightning now and more in transit to dealers for those who may want one
• We expect to have F-150 Lightning inventory into 2026, so there is plenty of opportunity for customers to get a Lightning for many months
• We will have early bird and renewal programs in place to support returning F-150 Lightning lessees and owners to get into another truck
• We will add additional programs next year to extend leases for customers interested in our new electric (UEV) pickup truck coming in 2027
• We will add additional programs to support off-lease customers who are interested in purchasing their F-150L and keep it for a long time
• Ford Power Promise continues in 2026

Thank you for the update. When it comes time to replace my 22 with something, likely in 3 to 5 years, I'm still only interested in what the now cancelled T3 may have been.

I have no interest in downgrading to either an EREV or a smaller entry level truck.

 

[roci]

First of all, thank you to everyone for the candid feedback and discussions in this forum. I have been sharing common themes with management. I want to triple down on something initially shared. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. We are also committed to ensuring ongoing support of our vehicles’ software quality and experience.


Sharing more information on the above as I get my hands on it.

• We have good dealer stock of F-150 Lightning now and more in transit to dealers for those who may want one
• We expect to have F-150 Lightning inventory into 2026, so there is plenty of opportunity for customers to get a Lightning for many months
• We will have early bird and renewal programs in place to support returning F-150 Lightning lessees and owners to get into another truck
• We will add additional programs next year to extend leases for customers interested in our new electric (UEV) pickup truck coming in 2027
• We will add additional programs to support off-lease customers who are interested in purchasing their F-150L and keep it for a long time
• Ford Power Promise continues in 2026

Does this extend outside the US and NA?

 

[The Weatherman]

Might want to check the second bullet point. …….26 or 36

 

[Deleted member 21405]

Thank you for the update. When it comes time to replace my 22 with something, likely in 3 to 5 years, I'm still only interested in what the now cancelled T3 may have been.

I have no interest in downgrading to either an EREV or a smaller entry level truck.

Why are you only interested in something that “may have been” and is confirmed dead??

 

[hturnerfamily]

>>>I love my Lightning period. However, for my next vehicle, I will be looking for a vehicle that can handle those few longer road trips that I take each year when I need to tow my boat.>>>

I don't disagree that a magical 'truck' like you hope is in the future...but, honestly, for those of us only complaining and hoping because we have those 'few' longer road trips, wouldn't we be better off, FINANCIALLY, and also long-term maintenance related, to simply RENT a large truck for these few times?

I don't own a U-Haul truck, but I rent one when needed.
I certainly don't want to buy one, just for that 'infrequent need'...

 

[hturnerfamily]

no matter the news from FORD, or anyone else:

I didn't order my 2022 FORD F150 LIGHTNING PRO SR because anyone else did - I did it for me.

I didn't care whether anyone else ordered one, or not, or in the future.

Whether FORD ever builds another one, I won't care.

And, just because FORD decides to now build something different, it matters not to me.


This AMAZING Machine is everything Jim Farley said it would be, back in early 2021... whether the climate has changed, no pun intended, or whether buyer 'sentiment' is now different, doesn't change the fact. I love it. LOVE it.

Just try to pry this wonderful Truck out of my hands...

 

[3rdgenfan]

Sharing more information on the above as I get my hands on it.

• We have good dealer stock of F-150 Lightning now and more in transit to dealers for those who may want one
• We expect to have F-150 Lightning inventory into 2026, so there is plenty of opportunity for customers to get a Lightning for many months
• We will have early bird and renewal programs in place to support returning F-150 Lightning lessees and owners to get into another truck
• We will add additional programs next year to extend leases for customers interested in our new electric (UEV) pickup truck coming in 2027
• We will add additional programs to support off-lease customers who are interested in purchasing their F-150L and keep it for a long time
• Ford Power Promise continues in 2026

Early bird reservation, and early buyer turned '23MY; interested to see what programs will be out there and how soon they get announced.

 

[moodinsk]

Why are you only interested in something that “may have been” and is confirmed dead??

Who wouldn't be interested in the spiritual successor to the best selling EV truck to date?

 

[Maineiac12]

First of all, thank you to everyone for the candid feedback and discussions in this forum. I have been sharing common themes with management. I want to triple down on something initially shared. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. We are also committed to ensuring ongoing support of our vehicles’ software quality and experience.


Sharing more information on the above as I get my hands on it.

• We have good dealer stock of F-150 Lightning now and more in transit to dealers for those who may want one
• We expect to have F-150 Lightning inventory into 2026, so there is plenty of opportunity for customers to get a Lightning for many months
• We will have early bird and renewal programs in place to support returning F-150 Lightning lessees and owners to get into another truck
• We will add additional programs next year to extend leases for customers interested in our new electric (UEV) pickup truck coming in 2027
• We will add additional programs to support off-lease customers who are interested in purchasing their F-150L and keep it for a long time
• Ford Power Promise continues in 2026

Brian,

Anything planned for purchasers? Or is it only going to be for leaseholders?

 

[Trucked Up EVs]

Hi F-150 Lightning owners,

I’m coming to you today with an update on our product roadmap. There has been a lot of speculation recently and we just went live with some news. So, I want to give you the facts straight from Ford, explain what is changing, and more importantly, why.

With the F-150 Lightning, we proved an electric truck could be a hit, and it has remained the best-selling electric pickup. Let’s be real about what we’ve learned from you, the owners, and the market over the last few years. You love the electric performance, smoothness, and the tech, but for those that drive long distances, take frequent trips or tow heavy loads across state lines often, an F-150 Lightning might not be the truck for them. And we want it to be.

We took a bet, produced an amazing product that so many people love, and now we’re making adjustments in response to evolving market realities, consumer preferences, and the regulatory environment. No one could have predicted how the EV landscape would change in the U.S., which has impacted the industry.
That is why our next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability. That is a game-changer for our customers. Like the current F-150 Lightning, the next-gen version will also offer exportable electricity that can power everything from work sites to camp sites to homes during a power outage.

For those who aren’t familiar with EREVs, this isn't a traditional plug-in hybrid. This is an electric vehicle with an on-board generator. It’s designed to give you the electric capability you enjoy around town, but with the range and towing confidence of a gas truck when you’re hauling a boat or camper. It will be assembled right here in Dearborn at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center.

What this means for the current generation F-150 Lightning and “T3” truck​

Production of the current generation of F-150 Lightning will end this year, and we have also made the decision to no longer produce the next-generation full-size electric truck, also known as “T3”. For those that still wish to purchase a MY25 F-150 Lightning, we have good inventory and interested customers can purchase from dealer stock.

If you have an order in, or were waiting on one, please contact your dealer immediately to see if your vehicle will be built or if they can match you to an existing stock unit.

As for existing Lightning customers who might be coming off lease or looking or a new Lightning, we are looking at the following:

• Assist early adopters to purchase or lease a new 25MY Lightning
• Offering extensions to customers who wish to extend their leases beyond the original term
• Providing dealer support to help match customer with available inventory

What about support for my current F-150 Lightning?​

I know reading "production is ending" can be nerve-wracking for current owners. I want to be clear: We are committed to ensuring ongoing support of your vehicle’s software updates, quality and experience. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. The team is not walking away from the current F-150 Lightning, and I’m not going anywhere.

The Ford Universal EV Platform​

While we shift F-150 Lightning to EREV, we are absolutely maintaining our plans and investment in the next generation of affordable EVs. The new Universal EV (UEV) platform is now more important than ever for Ford. UEV platform development is well underway. This flexible architecture will underpin a new family of smaller, more affordable, and cost-efficient vehicles—starting with a midsize pickup in 2027.

There is no impact to Mustang Mach-E. Mustang Mach-E is a great success story and is now available in almost 60 markets across the globe. It continues to be a standout electric SUV and plays an important role in the portfolio.

Other News: Battery Technology​

We are also making moves to make our business more sustainable. We are repurposing our Kentucky battery plant to build large-scale battery storage systems (for grid and industrial use), and our Michigan plant will be focusing on prismatic LFP cells. The same Michigan plant will be ramping up production in 2026 to power the new midsize electric truck built on our new Universal EV Platform.

Ford has been in manufacturing for over a century. We understand power management, thermal systems, safety engineering, and large-scale manufacturing. Our licensed LFP prismatic technology is proven, and our brand represents long-term accountability critical for 20+ year infrastructure investments.

I know this is a lot of news, and for the BEV purists, this might be tough to hear. We have a huge opportunity to get more people driving electric – whether that be plug-in hybrid, extended-range electric or pure electric vehicles and our plans set us up to succeed in this mission.

You can read the press release on this news here. I’ll be in the comments a later tonight to answer what I can.

Brian from Ford

Really?
What a load of marketing-speak. Your own CEO has been spouting off for over three years how 80% of pickup truck owners never tow or haul, and yet, you're now pumping out the very FUD narrative EV owners and supporters have been battling for years? Jimbo old boy and the Ford family sold out to shortsighted, short-term profit grabs and knee-bending to regressive auto building, which also makes him a liar to the Lightning community. I encourage anyone to listen to Jimbo's comments at the 2024 Ideas festival and on his famed Lightning road trip. It will make you nauseous today.
Worse, why hasn't Ford ever taken accountability for its own boondoggle, instead blaming their own truck owners? Who do you think is fooled here?
There are only TWO reasons the Lightning never reached economies of scale and BOTH of those horrible developments land squarely on the shoulders of Ford Motor Company:
1) Demolishing 300,000 initial reservations by breaching your own ramp plans of getting costs down by driving fast to economies of scale. This was destroyed via FIVE price increases in the ramp-up period. FoMoCo seeing an opportunity to bilk its loyal customers for a quick cash grab instead of sticking to script.
2) Ford failing miserably to rein in its glorified pawn-shop archaic dealership networks that tacked on insane 'market adjustments' on top of the already 5-times inflated MSRP, seeing, as reported by Motortrend in 2022, some base Pro '$39,990' trims being tagged at $140,000K!
Furthermore, most of the reservations were for lower trims, but both Ford and the dealerships throttled those and filled their lots with Lariats and Platinums. When those reservation holders arrived at dealerships to pick up their $40K truck, they were assaulted with supercar-level pricing - and they gave Ford the middle finger and walked - never to return.
But hey, those dealership sales people just moved them right over to that Powerboost and V8, and Ford made more money.
I don't know if this was a deliberate underhanded tactic to undermine EV truck sales or just plain stupidity, but in either case, it's due time Ford acknowledged its primary role in a) destroying initial demand b) destroying its own ramp-up out of pure shortsighted greed that led to the plant never being able to reach cost parity economies of scale (which it now blames on 'lack of interest'), and c) creating the universal and devastating perception that 'EV trucks are too expensive', which Farley is now out on Bloomberg, Yahoo, Finance, and any venue that might crank up the stock price, parroting to the anti-ev crowd.
You have a LOT of pissed off loyal Ford owners right now, me being one of them. And your 'solution' is to pivot and pitch us on the next new shiny pie-in-the-sky vaporware?
Let's not try to kid anyone here. You and I both know that your little EREV play is just to appease angry Lightning owners, and you don't seem to have anything concrete even developed yet, but your 'range estimate' seems to be just above the Ram. How convenient. You have already stated this will come AFTER your 'Model T Moment' urban go-carts hit the street. So what? 2029? 2030? Enough time to have consumers forget the value-for-price of the Lightning so they might overlook the 'new' Lightning EREV 2.0 costing even more?
I and many converted pure EV truck owners will be driving one of Ford's EV truck competitors long before your gas guzzling EV comes to market, which I doubt will ever happen anyway.
Ford just blew their EV truck future. I Look forward to your company's government 'too big to fail' bailout with enthusiasm. Maybe this time, congress will finally say no.

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