Will Ford publish KWh/100 miles?

[Fordskeptic]

Will Ford publish expected energy efficiency of F150L? I haven't seen any. If you have, please post a link. For now, what's everyone's guess? My guess is 50 kwh/100miles.

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[Fordskeptic]

Will Ford publish expected energy efficiency of F150L? I haven't seen any. If you have, please post a link. For now, what's everyone's guess? My guess is 50 kwh/100miles.

An earlier thread had a 46-50kwh/100 miles. So I will use that until Ford says different.

 

[sotek2345]

I have seen similar estimates elsewhere (usually given as 2mi/Kwhr). I think these are largely based on battery size estimates and range.

 

[TRP]

I don't think the Lightning has gone through the EPA testing, or if it has, Ford has not released the results........just estimates

 

[Fordskeptic]

I have seen similar estimates elsewhere (usually given as 2mi/Kwhr). I think these are largely based on battery size estimates and range.

Rough numbers, I figure F150L vs my current ICE vehicles saves about $0.09/mile fuel and $0.01/mile maintenance so say $0.10/mile. Anyone done similar rough calcs?

 

[shutterbug]

Rough numbers, I figure F150L vs my current ICE vehicles saves about $0.09/mile fuel and $0.01/mile maintenance so say $0.10/mile. Anyone done similar rough calcs?

Fuel cost will vary greatly based on your cost of electricity. My TOU rate is about $0.0523/kWh. There are people that are paying several times that.

 

[sotek2345]

Rough numbers, I figure F150L vs my current ICE vehicles saves about $0.09/mile fuel and $0.01/mile maintenance so say $0.10/mile. Anyone done similar rough calcs?

Hmm.. I did the math on a per month basis ($100/mo. for me). Given my truck gets about 6k miles per year (drive my fun car in the summer), that is about $. 20/mile or double your savings. That said my truck is tuned to use premium fuel (about $3.90/gal right now) and gets about 15mpg around town....

 

[biers]

Miles per kWh people, please. No one talks about how many gallons of gas it takes to go 100 miles.

the best efficiency number I can get from the charging data - specifically the miles per hour of 32A charging at 7.1 kW (240v assuming 7% loss). Math shows the ER would use 546W to go a mile and the SR 507W. Or right around 2 mpkWh on SR and 1.8 on the ER. This also shows us the available capacity for the SR should be around 115 kWh and 165 kWh on the ER.
My 3 ton Pacifica hybrid gets 2.6 mpkWh so I think these numbers are going to be pretty close given the truck is bigger, heavier and less aerodynamic. Oh. And AWD.

 

[sotek2345]

Miles per kWh people, please. No one talks about how many gallons of gas it takes to go 100 miles.

the best efficiency number I can get from the charging data - specifically the miles per hour of 32A charging at 7.1 kW (240v assuming 7% loss). Math shows the ER would use 546W to go a mile and the SR 507W. Or right around 2 mpkWh on SR and 1.8 on the ER. This also shows us the available capacity for the SR should be around 115 kWh and 165 kWh on the ER.
My 3 ton Pacifica hybrid gets 2.6 mpkWh so I think these numbers are going to be pretty close given the truck is bigger, heavier and less aerodynamic. Oh. And AWD.

This is very much an American vs. European thing (they use L/100km). I actually think they have a better unit as it is much better at explaining relative change in a linear way (which humans are better at understanding). Here is a great video on the subject.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=oLQmwOX6Xds&usg=AOvVaw1INEDokD_6uGPgniYnv37T

That said, I am American, so I tend to think in mpg / miles per Kwhr too!@

 

[Fordskeptic]

Miles per kWh people, please. No one talks about how many gallons of gas it takes to go 100 miles.

the best efficiency number I can get from the charging data - specifically the miles per hour of 32A charging at 7.1 kW (240v assuming 7% loss). Math shows the ER would use 546W to go a mile and the SR 507W. Or right around 2 mpkWh on SR and 1.8 on the ER. This also shows us the available capacity for the SR should be around 115 kWh and 165 kWh on the ER.
My 3 ton Pacifica hybrid gets 2.6 mpkWh so I think these numbers are going to be pretty close given the truck is bigger, heavier and less aerodynamic. Oh. And AWD.

I guess my age and colonial roots are showing.?
Interesting that the ER is calculated to require more watts than the SR due to charging efficiency factored into the larger battery capacity. Learned something new today. I hadn't thought about it, but it makes sense.

 

[greenne]

An earlier thread had a 46-50kwh/100 miles. So I will use that until Ford says different.

This makes sense. *Most* people in the know are guessing a usable battery capacity of 150-155KW. (extended battery). If you take 150 KW, thats 300mi based on 50 kwh/100mi, slightly more at 46kwh/100 mi

 

[diesel97]

Miles per kWh people, please. No one talks about how many gallons of gas it takes to go 100 miles.

Nobody might be talking about it but it is on the window sticker and is a better way to compare MPG

 

[greenne]

My guess is around 2mi/KwH. That fits with an estimated 150KwH battery size(extended) and a 300mi range.

Here's an analysis--
https://insideevs.com/news/508674/battery-capacity-ford-f150-lightning/

 

[Fordskeptic]

My guess is around 2mi/KwH. That fits with an estimated 150KwH battery size(extended) and a 300mi range.

Here's an analysis--
https://insideevs.com/news/508674/battery-capacity-ford-f150-lightning/

Thanks for the link.

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