New Tire Offering: Goodyear Wrangler ElectricDrive AT

[Adventureboy]

It's pretty hard to compare tires without real data. Very few organizations actually test and document things like rolling resistance because of the work involved in it. I can see it being factored in to ratings sometime in the future. In the meantime, I'll rely on the good folks of the forum here for their experience when I go to replace my tires.

The right balance between a good, sturdy sidewall, traction, longevity, sound, efficiency, style etc. is different for everyone. I'll happily take a few percent of a hit on range for longevity and traction and even an amount for style. I don't want to take more than a 5% hit if I can help it.

Goodyear above has a UTQG of 580/A/B
Toyo AT3 EV has a UTQG of 600/A/B as does the non-EV version
Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 has a UTQG of 820/B/A

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[Ishkatan]

Goodyear above has a UTQG of 580/A/B
Toyo AT3 EV has a UTQG of 600/A/B as does the non-EV version
Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 has a UTQG of 820/B/A

I'd love to hear from Lightning owners what their new tire experience / feelings are. I'm looking for good range for long trips, ruggedness for trails and snow, low noise for 75-80 mph on the highway. I don't care what they look like.
And what is wrong with the OEM tire brand / model as a replacement?

 

[Zprime29]

13k miles on my Bridgestone Dueler Ascent A/T, zero hit on mileage. I don't get snow, can't speak to that. Has held up fine in rain and no noticeable increase in noise. About the same cost as Defenders I think. Tread seams to be holding up well so far. I keep forgetting to measure them.

They are not marketed as EV tires but they do claim low rolling resistance and low noise. The reviews I read where largely from Jeep owners and they all said they got good MPG and where pleased with the ride vs more aggressive treads. That was enough for me to try them out. If I can get 40k miles out of them I'll buy 'em again.

 

[SeanOC]

Having a set of these new Goodyears installed tomorrow, Will report back

 

[efme]

13k miles on my Bridgestone Dueler Ascent A/T, zero hit on mileage. I don't get snow, can't speak to that. Has held up fine in rain and no noticeable increase in noise. About the same cost as Defenders I think. Tread seams to be holding up well so far. I keep forgetting to measure them.

They are not marketed as EV tires but they do claim low rolling resistance and low noise. The reviews I read where largely from Jeep owners and they all said they got good MPG and where pleased with the ride vs more aggressive treads. That was enough for me to try them out. If I can get 40k miles out of them I'll buy 'em again.

I was consider them since they are sold at Costco but have been turned off with them saying max psi is 44. Running at 42 cold, I'll often go to 46 in the summer. I know the max is at cold but still worries me Id be at the limit.

 

[Zprime29]

I was consider them since they are sold at Costco but have been turned off with them saying max psi is 44. Running at 42 cold, I'll often go to 46 in the summer. I know the max is at cold but still worries me Id be at the limit.

I've been running 40-42 for the entire year. I'm curious as to why you would need to use 46 in the summer? Is it a truck thing? (I'm still a truck newbie)

 

[efme]

I've been running 40-42 for the entire year. I'm curious as to why you would need to use 46 in the summer? Is it a truck thing? (I'm still a truck newbie)

Sorry I was unclear, running at 42 psi cold in the summer, the tires will warm up and will climb to 46 on their own. I was conflicted with the fact they would be above the cold psi max pressure once warmed up

 

[Zprime29]

Sorry I was unclear, running at 42 psi cold in the summer, the tires will warm up and will climb to 46 on their own. I was conflicted with the fact they would be above the cold psi max pressure once warmed up

Ooh, gotcha. Interesting point. I never paid attention to how high they got while on road. I'll probably keep them closer to 40 with that in mind. They're down to 37 at the moment as I've been lazy about filling them. 2.7mpk over the last 200 miles (I recently reset my trip 1 now that peak summer is over). 2.5mpk over the summer. Both numbers spot on from my OEM Grabbers.

 

[efme]

Ooh, gotcha. Interesting point. I never paid attention to how high they got while on road. I'll probably keep them closer to 40 with that in mind. They're down to 37 at the moment as I've been lazy about filling them. 2.7mpk over the last 200 miles (I recently reset my trip 1 now that peak summer is over). 2.5mpk over the summer. Both numbers spot on from my OEM Grabbers.

That's really good. Like I said the max psi is at cold. So in theory they know it will climb.

I'm not getting 2.5 usually.aybe 2.3 with 70mph hwy driving

 

[GoodSam]

2.7mpk over the last 200 miles (I recently reset my trip 1 now that peak summer is over). 2.5mpk over the summer. Both numbers spot on from my OEM Grabbers.

I'm not getting 2.5 usually.aybe 2.3 with 70mph hwy driving

Wow, you guys must be at higher altitudes, less air density, to get those >2 miles/kWh readings. I found someone in a Lucid owners forum saying about 17% increase in efficiency at a 5250 ft altitude. Sucks to be at sea level.

 

[RickLightning]

I'd love to hear from Lightning owners what their new tire experience / feelings are. I'm looking for good range for long trips, ruggedness for trails and snow, low noise for 75-80 mph on the highway. I don't care what they look like.
And what is wrong with the OEM tire brand / model as a replacement?

There are many threads on tires. The OEM tires are inferior to tires like Michelin Defenders. Most OEM tires are inferior.

 

[Athrun88]

Just a bit more context on Rick's post.

https://www.goodyear.com/en_US/learn/choosing-your-tires/oem-vs-replacement-tires.html

IMO, OE tires that come with your new vehicle are considered not as good as the market versions because they're custom tailored by the OE and Tire manufacturer to emphasise or tone down certain characteristics. The Hankook Dynapro ATs that come with my truck, for example, aren't exactly the same as the Hankook Dynapro ATs that you might get from TireRack because the compounds from the OE spec might be slightly different from the ones off the shelf.

At the end of the day, OE spec is 'good enough' for the majority of new car purchasers as most people don't give a second thought to their tires as long as they roll. Enthusiasts will want to go with a market replacement or a different make/brand altogether depending on what is important to you.

 

[Zprime29]

Wow, you guys must be at higher altitudes, less air density, to get those >2 miles/kWh readings. I found someone in a Lucid owners forum saying about 17% increase in efficiency at a 5250 ft altitude. Sucks to be at sea level.

Elevation here is around 2900-2400ft where I typically commute. What helps me is warm year round weather (I'm in southern AZ) and very little freeway driving. At least 70% is city streets with 45-50mph limits (although my average speed during commute hours is much lower). Unlike folk up north, I use more energy in the summer to keep myself (and the battery) at a reasonable temperature. The heat is extreme, but I've still got 96-97% of the stated 131kWh capacity when I charge to 100% after 48k miles. So the truck must be doing its job. I strongly believe this will be my first vehicle I hold on to and reach the 200k mile mark. Usually move on after 120-130k miles or 10-12 years.

 

[efme]

Wow, you guys must be at higher altitudes, less air density, to get those >2 miles/kWh readings. I found someone in a Lucid owners forum saying about 17% increase in efficiency at a 5250 ft altitude. Sucks to be at sea level.

i'm at 200ft.

 

[Firn]

That's really good. Like I said the max psi is at cold. So in theory they know it will climb.

I'm not getting 2.5 usually. maybe 2.3 with 70mph hwy driving

Its not really a theory. The tires are rated to do max rated weight, continuously at high speed, towing (more drag, more friction), in the highest heat, PLUS a significant factor of safety, many years after being made.

Don't fear the pressures on the sidewall.

FWIW though run whatever pressure is comfortable for you (as in physical comfort). Aside from the weight tire pressure has little impact on things like efficiency.

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