Atrocious June 10th, 2026 Ford Account & App Terms and App Privacy Notice?

[TenaciousG77]

You utilized a website which collects information about you so advertisers can send you targeted ads to complain about Ford collecting information about you so advertisers can send you targeted ads?

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[Heliian]

Take my data, it's literally worthless. I don't respond to targeted ads enough. Make my user experience better and I'm all for it.
If you're on the internet then you're already trapped.

 

[l!ghtning]

Just curious. I just read through the T&C and did not see the section where they are selling data. Can your AI point me to that specific section.

Great question. If you follow the link under the "your state specific privacy rights":

It takes you to CCPA disclosures, link can be found here:

https://www.ford.com/help/privacy/#sellingandshare

There's a table where Ford lays it out in plain English. I'm not a lawyer, just a guy who's wondering out loud... how did we get here? How do we go back (fully understanding there are forum members who were born after privacy rights were regularly traded for a "free" app.

 

[Maxx]

This is just another nothing burger. Certainly nothing new. It boils down to targeted marketing, the more they know about us, wants, needs etc, the better equipped they are to provide those wants, needs, etc's.

You wouldn't go to a grocery store expecting to buy a car battery would you? (Walmart shopper doesn't count). Anyway, yeah, it's all about marketing pure and simple.

Do some step over the line? Do we still live on Earth? It's not going to worry me.

Just because that has been the most wildly use of it in the past, it does not mean it will be the only use of it in the future. Data on you is often collected to manipulate you to do something you would not do otherwise. It could be your vote, your shopping or stock purchase choices. The seller of the data does not know and care how it is used. And it does not have to be your data to have an impact on you. Your terrorist neighbor's smartphone could make you a collateral damage when that tomahawk missile hits. The app that targeted immigrants by the data that were collected on them was not designed to sell them anything.

Even though data collection seems inevitable and sometimes necessary it often has a cost.

Human brain is much more hackable than we like to admit. We are not as special as our moms told us we were.

All that said, I have mostly given up and click on Accept on almost any button they throw my way.

 

[l!ghtning]

Great conversation everyone, thanks for your contributing your perspectives. Happy to see we can keep these choices front of mind and remember that we are not resigned to accepting what ever hostile exploitation Ford imposes on their customers. Excited to see what Slate delivers.

 

[Runaway Tractor]

LOL. Now do the TOS for all the other apps on your phone where you blindly hit the ACCEPT button after in installing. In fact, do the TOS for your phone (apple or google or samsung whatever) that you accepted when you got the phone. Probably also should look at the TOS for your internet service providers. And also the TOS for the AI you used to review the TOS.

Society as whole, including you like it or not, accepted this as a baseline standard of daily life a long time ago. You just noticing it in your Ford app is like just noticing it gets dark at night. Not suggesting I like it or think it is good. But it is what it is, and it has been this way for about 10 years now.

 

[Maxx]

Manipulate? ROFLMAO You mean suggest. No one manipulates me unless they have a gun in their hand aimed at my head.

Maybe you are as special as your mom told you. As for the rest of us, there is a reason people pay so much for that data.

I used to think I was special. Then I found myself surrounded by toys I rarely use and pissed off at people I have never met.

 

[22legit2quit]

I hope they like my data and the videos of me driving in the scream mask.

 

[Pacific.NW]

No disrespect to the OP, but the irony of posting a complaint about your privacy, on the internet, where everything you do is tracked and all information is sold, cannot be overstated.

 

[Wendy]

Welcome to 2026 … those of us old enough to remember the movie 1984 though it was far fetched that people would be trying to manipulate our thinking by saying obvious untruths like “2+2=5”; or that there would be big screens on our wall that would be giving us ‘news’ and listening to us at the same time.
The only thing they got wrong is that those are little screens and we carry them around in our pockets!

 

[NWilson]

Time to pass out the foil hats.
Bless your heart. My mom never told me I was special. I knew it from day 1.

 

[chl]

Any lawyers in the house?

1 - If Ford breaks my App that is tied to the vehicle I purchased from them and then provids a button to fix the app but instead of the word "Fix" on the button, they use the word "Accept", am I wrong to assume they just labeled it incorrectly?

2 - My understanding is that if I sign a paper that says I won't sue someone for cutting my legs off and then they cut off my legs, I still can sue them. Does this apply to class action law suits?

p.s. unless it is some vicious seriously damaging negligence, I wouldn't participate in putting Ford out of business to make a law firm richer but I have serious problems with Ford selling or giving out my information.

Lawyer here.
You purchased the vehicle, but you licensed the software.
You own the vehicle, you license the use of the software.
Such is life.

A "contract of adhesion" is basically what you are dealing with here, as you do with any software you use on your PC or smart phone.

"A contract of adhesion (often called a "boilerplate" or "take-it-or-leave-it" contract) is a legally binding agreement drafted by one party with significantly more bargaining power. The weaker party must accept the terms as-is, with no opportunity to negotiate or alter them..."

Warranties are another example of them.

People think warranties are there to protect them - no they are there to provide limits on the liability of the company that sold you the thing they are warranting. Without a warranty, you arguably have a lot more rights when something goes wrong.

As for the privacy thing - I suggest everybody watch the AMC program "The Audacity."
That is the reality.

On the other hand...ever ask yourself why those apps you use are free?
The company that made them is altruistic and non-profit?
Nope, they make money selling your info which pays for their development and overhead costs.

Capitalism.

Love it or leave it as they say.
Go off-grid, give up your iPhone, PC, smart tv set, cable subscription, bank accounts, credit accounts, etc.
They all gather your info and sell it within the limits of what ever laws we have and your contract of adhesion with them where you click away a lot of rights.

Police and other law enforcement use the info to fight crime, or maybe round up the dissidents? Depends on the people in power doesn't it?

Join the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) and read all about it!

https://ssd.eff.org/

 

[Maxx]

Lawyer here.
You purchased the vehicle, but you licensed the software.
You own the vehicle, you license the use of the software.
Such is life.

A "contract of adhesion" is basically what you are dealing with here, as you do with any software you use on your PC or smart phone.

"A contract of adhesion (often called a "boilerplate" or "take-it-or-leave-it" contract) is a legally binding agreement drafted by one party with significantly more bargaining power. The weaker party must accept the terms as-is, with no opportunity to negotiate or alter them..."

Warranties are another example of them.

People think warranties are there to protect them - no they are there to provide limits on the liability of the company that sold you the thing they are warranting. Without a warranty, you arguably have a lot more rights when something goes wrong.

As for the privacy thing - I suggest everybody watch the AMC program "The Audacity."
That is the reality.

On the other hand...ever ask yourself why those apps you use are free?
The company that made them is altruistic and non-profit?
Nope, they make money selling your info which pays for their development and overhead costs.

Capitalism.

Love it or leave it as they say.
Go off-grid, give up your iPhone, PC, smart tv set, cable subscription, bank accounts, credit accounts, etc.
They all gather your info and sell it within the limits of what ever laws we have and your contract of adhesion with them where you click away a lot of rights.

Police and other law enforcement use the info to fight crime, or maybe round up the dissidents? Depends on the people in power doesn't it?

Join the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) and read all about it!

https://ssd.eff.org/

Thank you for taking the time. It helps.

 

[l!ghtning]

Manipulate? ROFLMAO You mean suggest. No one manipulates me unless they have a gun in their hand aimed at my head.

Tomahawk missile worries? ROFLMAO again. Not on American soil, not with our own tools. You sure have one twisted sense of reality or a healthy sense of humor. Which ever it is, thank you for the morning laugh, nearly spit coffee all over my screen.

1985 MOVE bombing - Wikipedia

Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence – The White House

As I drink my morning coffee

 

[l!ghtning]

No disrespect to the OP, but the irony of posting a complaint about your privacy, on the internet, where everything you do is tracked and all information is sold, cannot be overstated.

not at all, none taken.

Different perspectives is what makes forums great, helps everyone get to the best answers and decisions (for themselves) quickly. I truly value them, even when they don't align with my personal thoughts. I fully recognize, as other members have posted, a lot of us have long ago given away our rights, just hurts when you see it happen in front of your eyes; particularly when you decided to do business with a company for the explicit reason of not selling your data. I personally hold out as much as I can.

Didn't mean to start a pity party, just an ol groanie bemoaning the changes to the T&C lol

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