2025 IIHS Moderate overlap front: updated test

[Ted23Lightning]

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/ford/f-150-lightning-crew-cab-pickup/2025

The overall rating was “poor”. It looks to be because of the rear occupant.

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[TwentyTwentyThree]

https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/iihs-unveils-new-ratings-for-seven-electric-vehicles

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/ford/f-150-lightning-crew-cab-pickup/2025

 

[TwentyTwentyThree]

When you look at the breakdown of the scores, it's much better. The worse scores it gets are for rear passenger, No one ever rides in my truck in the back, just the front. If they made a single cab Lightning, that's what I would have bought. I don't need a people hauler, got rid of my 7 passenger Explorer for that reason.

That doesn’t math in every case but I understand your reasoning.

 

[Henry Ford]

When you look at the breakdown of the scores, it's much better. The worse scores it gets are for rear passenger, No one ever rides in my truck in the back, just the front. If they made a single cab Lightning, that's what I would have bought. I don't need a people hauler, got rid of my 7 passenger Explorer for that reason.

I'll explain that to my kids.

 

[TwentyTwentyThree]

I'll explain that to my kids.

lol. Right!!

 

[Henry Ford]

Huh? What part? My nest is empty.

But you are aware that other people exist, right?

The breakdown of scores doesn't look "much better" to those of us whose children ride in the backseat.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

My nest is empty.

I thought that way,
until my nestlings built their own nests.

Hey here is a new use for the Frunk
we took our 1-year-old grandson to a beach to play in the water, we stop to charge up on the way so I know we have lots of spare power. My wife says she is going to change the baby's diaper while we are stopped - pops the frunk, we have the soft fitted Ford matt that fits perfect - she drops in a soft towel and uses the frunk as a change table. It is the perfect height, and much easier to reach than the back seat. LOL. Who knew.

 

[chl]

But you are aware that other people exist, right?

Yes, vaguely, but they could be an illusion/hallucination...not real until they annoy me with their posts!

 

[Grumpy2]

The booster seat gets far more use than the electric chainsaw that I also carry!
Ford needs to work on that rear passenger crash issue.

 

[chl]

I thought that way,
until my nestlings built their own nests.

Hey here is a new use for the Frunk
we took our 1-year-old grandson to a beach to play in the water, we stop to charge up on the way so I know we have lots of spare power. My wife says she is going to change the baby's diaper while we are stopped - pops the frunk, we have the soft fitted Ford matt that fits perfect - she drops in a soft towel and uses the frunk as a change table. It is the perfect height, and much easier to reach than the back seat. LOL. Who knew.

Kudos to her!

You could say that a messy necessity is the grand-mother of invention!

Fun in the funky frunk!

 

[chl]

Wow, gee, well, I'll be sure to do my best not to run into anything head-on, and avoid any on-coming drunken lunatics, now that I know how unsafe the back seat passenger would be if I didn't!

My grown (sorta) son is 6'5" (which reminds me, I need to get a DNA test - I only made it to 5'8") and he/we prefer him sitting in the back where is marginally less annoying, so it is somewhat useful to me.

He has refused to get strapped into a car seat or wear a seat belt since he was 3 - many a day of arriving late to work due to a toddler stand-off - so the back seat is where he must ride to this day - if I get a ticket it's coming out of his allowance!

When I had my 2001 Ford Ranger XLT I used to tow my boat to the river and put (smallish) passengers in those little jump seats in the back where they could be very "cozy". But whenever I went to put something back behind the front seat, I often would gash my head on the top of the door opening where this metal protrusion was:

The Lightning back seat floor gets used for stuff when the Frunk is full and I don't need the bed space, like for a tool bag, chain saw or something about that size - if I put smallish things in the bed, I'll probably forget to unload them until the middle of the night or the next day when I say to myself "wtf did I leave that!?"

I agree a longer bed would be useful for those 10-12 foot things that hang out of the short bed.

I thought one of the cool/useful things about the Silverado EV was the little door in the bed that could be opened to the cabin for long stuff.

 

[MountainAlive]

Yeah I’ll definitely be keeping my little guy in his booster seat in the back for a while especially after seeing this.

 

[Zprime29]

Yeah I’ll definitely be keeping my little guy in his booster seat in the back for a while especially after seeing this.

Agreed, until they max out the weight limit for the booster. My 6yr old is still small enough to need a high back booster.

I wonder if there are ways to mitigate the seatbelt moving out of place for passengers that don't normally need a booster. The compartment otherwise looks like it handled well.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Agreed, until they max out the weight limit for the booster. My 6yr old is still small enough to need a high back booster.

I wonder if there are ways to mitigate the seatbelt moving out of place for passengers that don't normally need a booster. The compartment otherwise looks like it handled well.

I just put my 5’ tall kid back into a booster because of this test, can’t say she’s too thrilled about that.

The poor rating is basically because the seat belt can move, causing the shoulder belt to ride up around the neck of the rear passenger and the lap belt to move up around the abdomen..basically everything we use a car seat/booster to avoid and unfortunately for me, it’s the only way I feel comfortable with her riding in it now.

For those that don’t have kids or use rear passengers, it’ll still be a phenomenal truck.

Unfortunately for me, she goes into the booster for shorter trips and if we want to go camping, I have to haul the camper with the Ford and the wife and kids hop into a second car as a chase vehicle.

I’ve been stressing about this a bit since the test came out. For anyone who cares:

- Looked into adult/special needs booster seats, none have actually been crash tested.
- Considered a seat belt positioner, read up on the plastics snapping, and it may provide peace of mind but reality is they’re not tested.
- Considered 5pt harness retrofit, risky with no cage/helmet. Not sure what the effect would be in a rollover (ie, roof cave in)
- Tried rationalizing it, after all the Honda Odyssey failed and that was made for families…
- Considered going back to a R1T since it passed. I left that truck for a reason. It’s too small on the interior for the full family and dog.
- Cybertruck…I can’t do it.
- Sell the travel trailer and go back to tent camping/cabins
- Go back to gas and get a Toyota Tundra, which passed but only in 2025.

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