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I called after finding the number through the ford chatbot. I wanted to see if they could see anything on their end why I might not be getting the latest OTA updates. They do suggest anyone not getting updates to call them instead of just doing what I was told to do to look into your specific VIN.

My reason for calling was because I had not gotten an update since July when I got the "update improvements" update. This was coincidentally right before I purchased the car and disconnected the previous owner and set myself up. I don't recall doing a fordpass reset so even though fordpass app worked, OTA might have been disconnected this whole time.

This support team is limited in their abilities but is able to see if you are communicating correctly with their Fordpass servers which include, but not limited to, both FordPass app and the OTA update functionality.

The agent was able to see on their end that my vehicle was NOT communicating with the OTA servers so I wouldn't be getting updates since they didn't see my vehicle as connected.

In order to fix this I was instructed to do a fordpass connectivity reset (NOT factory reset; do not do this). This disconnects PAAK and the fordpass app connectivity until you reset it up after the system resets itself. Next, turn on automatic updates, and set a schedule. She told me NOT to chose "no schedule" as this stupidly basically never installs your updates. I set those and after the factory reset, she successfully saw my vehicle as connected and set schedule and was now in the best state to receive updates.

She was specific in saying their system does NOT have visibility in what updates your car still needs. But she is able to see any pending updates (downloaded onto the car and awaiting the scheduled time) or failed pushes if you were already connected to the OTA servers. Since my car was in a disconnected state, she saw no failures since the servers doesn't try or log a "skip" if you're in a disconnected state.

Why not a factory reset? There is some sort of procedure that turns off the fordpass or ota connectivity for 14 days after a factory reset according to her.

Hope this helps others!
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But did it help you get updates?
 

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They can 100% see what modules have pending updates.

There was nothing wrong with your car. It was talking to the cloud just fine. They just haven't sent you any updates since July. 4-5 months without an iupdate is not abnormal with the way this works. If they did send you updates between July and now, they would appear in your OTA dashboard below whether they installed or not.

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They can 100% see what modules have pending updates.

There was nothing wrong with your car. It was talking to the cloud just fine. They just haven't sent you any updates since July. 4-5 months without an iupdate is not abnormal with the way this works. If they did send you updates between July and now, they would appear in your OTA dashboard below whether they installed or not.

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I don't know. thats what she said. maybe she didn't know how. whatever she was looking at said my car was in a disconnected state. doing her stepped procedure, put it back in a connected state. Unsure if the disconnect was associated with changing over to a new account and needing to set the update schedule under a new profile.

the way she described it is she did see the july update but as long as the car is in a disconnected state, the OTA system doesn't even try to push updates to a "disconnected" car. once it is in a connected state, the system will try and push the next go around.

It would be interesting understand how they organize all the builds and how campaigns are pushed, timed out and then it returns to push again.

I know you have extensive exp with this but it only took a few minutes and on her end she said she immediately said it looked disconnected and then afterwards was able to see it show as connected.
 
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I don't know. thats what she said. maybe she didn't know how. whatever she was looking at said my car was in a disconnected state. doing her stepped procedure, put it back in a connected state. Unsure if the disconnect was associated with changing over to a new account and needing to set the update schedule under a new profile.
I know it was connected and talking to the cloud because your DTC history is there for 60 days (which is as long as it is kept on the cloud). If your truck was not talking to the cloud, the connected data would only show a few days of history based on whenever you did whatever they asked you to do.

Even if auto updates was set to off, you would get a notification that an OTA was pending and needed your permission to install.
 
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Well if the Lightning is discontinued as the rumors are flying now, we may have seen our last OTA anyways.
Why? They're still under warranty for years at this point.

2022s are end of warranty and they're still getting updates
 

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I called after finding the number through the ford chatbot. I wanted to see if they could see anything on their end why I might not be getting the latest OTA updates. They do suggest anyone not getting updates to call them instead of just doing what I was told to do to look into your specific VIN.

My reason for calling was because I had not gotten an update since July when I got the "update improvements" update. This was coincidentally right before I purchased the car and disconnected the previous owner and set myself up. I don't recall doing a fordpass reset so even though fordpass app worked, OTA might have been disconnected this whole time.

This support team is limited in their abilities but is able to see if you are communicating correctly with their Fordpass servers which include, but not limited to, both FordPass app and the OTA update functionality.

The agent was able to see on their end that my vehicle was NOT communicating with the OTA servers so I wouldn't be getting updates since they didn't see my vehicle as connected.

In order to fix this I was instructed to do a fordpass connectivity reset (NOT factory reset; do not do this). This disconnects PAAK and the fordpass app connectivity until you reset it up after the system resets itself. Next, turn on automatic updates, and set a schedule. She told me NOT to chose "no schedule" as this stupidly basically never installs your updates. I set those and after the factory reset, she successfully saw my vehicle as connected and set schedule and was now in the best state to receive updates.

She was specific in saying their system does NOT have visibility in what updates your car still needs. But she is able to see any pending updates (downloaded onto the car and awaiting the scheduled time) or failed pushes if you were already connected to the OTA servers. Since my car was in a disconnected state, she saw no failures since the servers doesn't try or log a "skip" if you're in a disconnected state.

Why not a factory reset? There is some sort of procedure that turns off the fordpass or ota connectivity for 14 days after a factory reset according to her.

Hope this helps others!
This happens to me quite a lot where updates will not install. It seems I don't drive my lightning enough to keep my 12v battery voltage high enough. When the voltage is low the updates will not install. Every few months Ford Mobile service will come. They put jumper cables between their service vehicle and my lightning. This will increase the 12v voltage. They then install updates from their laptop computer the bring with them.
 

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Well if the Lightning is discontinued as the rumors are flying now, we may have seen our last OTA anyways.
Da fuk? I had to check this out and what a mistake that would be. I get they need to make money… but the Lightning (save for the OTA nonsense) is an amazing vehicle. This would be sad, there is no other EV I would want to buy from Ford. Guess the EV gods really want me to get the Cayenne EV when it comes out…
 

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Da fuk? I had to check this out and what a mistake that would be. I get they need to make money… but the Lightning (save for the OTA nonsense) is an amazing vehicle. This would be sad, there is no other EV I would want to buy from Ford. Guess the EV gods really want me to get the Cayenne EV when it comes out…
Ota is not a lightning only feature
 

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Yes of course, and sadly it’s the worst part of the experience. If Ford discontinues the Lightning then that would suck because it’s the best vehicle I have ever owned.
 
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Mine isn't malfunctioning but I always want the latest updates.

Slow ota is better than no ota or needing to go to the dealer
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