Hit 183kW today at 57% SOC - SR 2023

[WaterboyNorCal]

It sure seems like Ford has updated the charging curve for the SR Lightnings again- a few months back I started to see the high 160’s and some low 170s and I was super happy with those numbers, since when I bought the truck, I would rarely see anything above 150kW.
Today I was charging at an EA 350kW station and was shocked to see 183kW peak- it only held 180kW for a few minutes, before starting to gradually drop down towards 120kW. Anyone else with a standard range see similar speeds recently?

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[Brons2]

I just don't DC fast charge often enough to see any potential differences from the software updates in my SR. But I saw over 170Kwh multiple times at Tesla Superchargers when we took our road trip on Spring Break.

That was March and I haven't fast charged once since then.

 

[On the Road with Ralph]

I do a lot of long distance travel in my 2023 SR Pro - 13 trips of more than 1500 miles, approaching 300 DCFC charging sessions. I don’t closely monitor the peak charging speed (I just stick around long enough to confirm that it gets up over 120), but I know I’ve seen it reached 170+ on a few occasions. I am about to leave on trip 14 and will be using a couple EA hyperchargers along the way. With luck, they won’t be throttled for thermal reasons, and I’ll try to pay more attention to the peak rate.

 

[Legacy23]

I've been seeing similar number on my ER Platinum...

 

[Marc]

I just did a long trip and I saw in the high 170's with my ER 23. I held above 150 to 70%soc.

 

[Jim Lewis]

I would like to know if the higher charging rates lead to a faster decline in HVB SOH. Seems like Ford wouldn't have gone for it unless it had the mass data from all of us to know it's not going to make much of a difference.

 

[WaterboyNorCal]

I would like to know if the higher charging rates lead to a faster decline in HVB SOH. Seems like Ford wouldn't have gone for it unless it had the mass data from all of us to know it's not going to make much of a difference.

Yes, I have wondered that also. My suspicion is the latter; although I think they were being very cautious with the initial DCFC charging curve, and I believe the data from tens of thousands of real-world DCFC charging sessions and the associated HVB health data is showing no significant difference, and therefore they are allowing for a less conservative approach going forward. Rivian has done this same thing recently with an updated charge curve - no manufacturer wants to have to replace a battery pack under warranty, but I think the data is clear based on Tesla’s long term data- DCFC does not have a meaningful impact on battery degradation with modern batteries due to more effective cooling systems and temperature monitoring via the BMS during charging. Battery age and overall climate (living in Phoenix vs. Seattle, for example), as well as total number of charging cycles, has a far greater impact on battery degradation.
I think it’s very likely that Ford’s cautious approach will result in relatively low battery degradation over time, primarily due to the large buffer, effectively preventing the user from letting the battery sit at 100% SOC.

 

[tlink]

I have gotten 190kW at a 350kW EVgo station. Actually it briefly hit 195kW but I wasn't fast enough with the camera to catch it.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

I’m on a 24 Flash, and so I’ve seen higher charge rates, but this is all good news for the 22/23 models.
I agree that this is probably for a longevity standpoint, and I’m glad for this. As Ford gets more data they should be able to dial in the charge rates.

Good info

 

[PJnc284]

I would like to know if the higher charging rates lead to a faster decline in HVB SOH. Seems like Ford wouldn't have gone for it unless it had the mass data from all of us to know it's not going to make much of a difference.

Ford's charge rate really isn't that high. It maxes out at only 1.2C and averages a bit under 1C which is rather conservative. 1C (meaning it takes 1 hour to go from 0-100% at that speed) is safe. The Taycan for example maxes at almost 3C which means it could charge 3 times at that rate.

 

[Doctors Do Little]

I’m on a 24 Flash, and so I’ve seen higher charge rates, but this is all good news for the 22/23 models.
I agree that this is probably for a longevity standpoint, and I’m glad for this. As Ford gets more data they should be able to dial in the charge rates.

Good info

Best I saw on EA and EVGo last week was 187. I was so excited, and then blinked and it was at 96! Jeez

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