Manual Nav Update - Tesla Superchargers

[Maineiac12]

I'll ask Martin to chime in, but I highly doubt anything with the APIM has anything to do with ProPower. I really don't get what the big deal is with everyone wanting ProPower on when the vehicle is off? This would probably be controlled by the BCM as it's responsible for essentially turning on the vehicle and coordinating everything necessary to run ProPower. Things like keeping the Auxiliary Battery Contactor engaged, coolant system running/monitored, and the ProPower inverters on are all things that need the vehicle "ON". What is the problem with having the vehicle on?

Because the truck lights up like a Christmas tree when “on.” You can shut off most of it but then you have the vehicle power down timer to worry about.

Pro power when “off” is also extremely useful if you’re powering a camp site or just want the convenience of pressing one button to activate vs needing to turn off climate, the various screens, radio, etc. when running the generator for a long time.

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[ZSC100]

Because the truck lights up like a Christmas tree when “on.” You can shut off most of it but then you have the vehicle power down timer to worry about.

Pro power when “off” is also extremely useful if you’re powering a camp site or just want the convenience of pressing one button to activate vs needing to turn off climate, the various screens, radio, etc. when running the generator for a long time.

I totally agree with a "dark mode". And I think this has been suggested before. I'd love for it to be a button above the screen, you push it and ALL lights are OFF.

I have turned off the "shut off timer" before to use ProPower and Wi-Fi in remote camp sites, didn't seem too difficult, but I never thought about just activating ProPower with the little green button from a powered off state. That would be convenient. All of this could be done by Ford if they cared to listen to feedback and actually implement.

 

[Maineiac12]

I totally agree with a "dark mode". And I think this has been suggested before. I'd love for it to be a button above the screen, you push it and ALL lights are OFF.

I have turned off the "shut off timer" before to use ProPower and Wi-Fi in remote camp sites, didn't seem too difficult, but I never thought about just activating ProPower with the little green button from a powered off state. That would be convenient. All of this could be done by Ford if they cared to listen to feedback and actually implement.

I have the one button power on feature of my 2024 and it’s great. You have tap a toggle on the pro power screen first but then you can just turn the outlets on by pushing the green button. Pretty handy and Ford should update all the trucks to this software.

 

[ZSC100]

I have the one button power on feature of my 2024 and it’s great. You have tap a toggle on the pro power screen first but then you can just turn the outlets on by pushing the green button. Pretty handy and Ford should update all the trucks to this software.

So, you're telling us that with the truck OFF, Doors locked, no key in pocket,, you can walk up to the bed, push the little green button next to the outlets and the ProPower will turn on?

 

[bmwhitetx]

So, you're telling us that with the truck OFF, Doors locked, no key in pocket,, you can walk up to the bed, push the little green button next to the outlets and the ProPower will turn on?

I was curious about this too. According to the 2024 Owners Manual, to turn PPOB on when the vehicle is off you have to press the power outlet button within one minute of exiting or unlocking the vehicle to switch the power outlets on.

 

[RickLightning]

I have abilities that not many have.

Yeah, yeah. I've seen your movies, and I'm not impressed...

 

[Greg K]

@ZSC100
I do not have the option to turn on pro power without the vehicle being powered on. The reason someone would want that is to keep all the lights off during an event. I would like that option myself but dont use pro power much so it's low on my priority list.

@Jesse-Infotainment is exactly correct. This was a difficult process that not many can handle. It's not just connecting forscan and uploading module changes. It took me about 5 hours to complete and there was significant risk of bricking the truck. With Jesse's help, we got it done and I tested it the next weekend on a long road trip to Louisiana from Kansas. End of the day, I went back to google ev routing as it's basically better. User experience is more fluid, navigation is better and it takes less screen clicks to to the exact same thing.

I got accused of gatekeeping and bragging about this. I was simply sharing my experience about it with the Facebook group to let others know it's going to come ota at some point and its not a game changer... imo. Everything we do is to try to make the ford experience better and getting frustrated at me for not sharing this is ridiculous. Really the frustration should be at ford for not releasing this already. I'm just glad we have folks like Jesse willing to help and give his time and years of experience/knowledge to make our experience better.

Thanks everyone,
Martin
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I totally agree with Martin. I'm more frustrated at Ford for not releasing updates. Keeping their Lightning customers excited about their trucks that they are willing to talk positively about their trucks; basically FREE advertising for their (Ford) product.

 

[P-38]

I was curious about this too. According to the 2024 Owners Manual, to turn PPOB on when the vehicle is off you have to press the power outlet button within one minute of exiting or unlocking the vehicle to switch the power outlets on.

Yes this is how a 2024 works.

If you happen to be using an intermittent load and have more than 6 minutes between use you have to scratch your head and hop back in the truck and turn stuff on again...then after a couple more times figure out you can open and close the door and then push green button and then figure out that you can use the fob. And then complete the task and then read the manual and learn about the enable within 1 minute thing but still be left wondering about why the outlets were shutting off in the first place...

Then learn together with others on the forum that if you draw less than 100mA for 6 minutes they shut off...

I still love the truck, just somethings are harder to learn about than others because the truck is complicated and not 100% of things are in the manual.

 

[Newton]

I feel a little uncomfortable leaving the truck on with the keys inside when I’m running backup power to my house. I’m running backup power from the rear outlet.

 

[Maquis]

My 2023 is pretty much up to date (I think). When I turn ProPower on, I get a message to the effect “Shutdown timer disabled….”. I no longer need to turn it off manually.

I feel a little uncomfortable leaving the truck on with the keys inside when I’m running backup power to my house. I’m running backup power from the rear outlet.

The truck will stay powered on even if you remove the fob. And without the fob, the truck cannot be shifted out of ”P”.

 

[bmwhitetx]

My 2023 is pretty much up to date (I think). When I turn ProPower on, I get a message to the effect “Shutdown timer disabled….”. I no longer need to turn it off manually.

Had you previously done this mod maybe?
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ng-forscan-thread-version-2.23634/post-467731

 

[RickLightning]

I feel a little uncomfortable leaving the truck on with the keys inside when I’m running backup power to my house. I’m running backup power from the rear outlet.

Why are you leaving the keys inside?

 

[Maquis]

Had you previously done this mod maybe?
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...ng-forscan-thread-version-2.23634/post-467731

I have not done any ForScan mods. I recently had my truck in for its 10K service, and mentioned that I had had some Sync hiccups and directed them to the recent Sync TSB. When I picked up the truck, they told me that they had applied all available updates. I think that’s when it started.

 

[Kyler721]

I just finished a 3400 mile trip where I charged in eight different states. The Ford NAV system was basically useless for this journey; I relied entirely on Apple Maps via CarPlay. The reason for its uselessness? The Ford system does not display compatible Tesla superchargers, and Apple does. I really wish Ford would stop pushing out pointless updates for both the truck and the app, and give us something that would be actually useful like the location of Tesla chargers.

I’ve had the opposite experience. I do a lot of trips up to northern Michigan in the summer and the “public charging” feature in my lightning tells me exactly which Tesla stations are and are not compatible. It flat out says “not compatible” when searching for ones along my route. Wish they would be compatible but they’re probably older ones not compatible with anything but Teslas.

 

[21st Century Truck]

...The Ford system does not display compatible Tesla superchargers, and Apple does. I really wish Ford would stop pushing out pointless updates for both the truck and the app, and give us something that would be actually useful like the location of Tesla chargers.

Actually, the Ford NAV does display some Tesla Supercharger locations... it's admittedly a fraction of the total amount of Tesla Supercharger locations out there, but some Superchargers are in there. It's easy to verify this on the Ford NAV DC Fast charger search screen, especially in a large urban area like mine. In my area, that will show about 10 - 15% of the Tesla Supercharger locations here... the real deal, not Magic Dock ones.

From my Mach E days when I first looked at this and compared notes with other Mach E drivers a year+ ago, it appeared the obstacle was more on the Tesla's side than at Ford's side... something to do with making that data layer available in a dynamic, updated and complete fashion between the two companies. Of course, that was about the time Musk fired a large part of the Tesla division that dealt with non-Tesla EV supercharging.

I just use the Tesla app to find one when I travel.

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