Power outlet are timing off after 6 minutes!

[Firn]

Well, someone needs to survey these folks with light load requirements and adjust to expectations, across the board, aren't well intelligent enough to shut down the truck or take it out of passive energy mode (24+) when we absolutely DO NOT need the PPOB availability.

Oh, totally agree—although I’m not sure I buy the idea that everyone is quite smart enough for this...

I’m honestly torn. I don't know what the “right” level of restriction is—or if there should even be one at all.

Any time a system like that is energized, the risk of fire goes way up. Even basic 12V setups have been responsible for plenty of fires. I get the liability concerns—it’s a tightrope walk between giving people the features they want and not getting sued into bankruptcy when a few trucks inevitably torch someone's garage... or worse.

And let's be real: if even 1% of users are total idiots, that’s still a lot of idiots. Somewhere out there, half a dozen people will leave PPOB running 24/7 just to keep a bobblehead glowing. You know it’s going to happen.

Is it dumb to run a 100W device just to power something that uses 10W? Yeah, absolutely. But it’s also easy, cheap, and something you have to intentionally do—so… I kinda get why they have their limit, I think.

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[P-38]

I don't like the limit and have made it known to Ford...

I was using a saw to cut wood for a project...sometimes the cuts were more than 6 minutes apart... It was freaking annoying.

I'm with taxman, I set a limit to not drain the HV below and should be free to use the power when I want without having a load.

I don't think fire in the electrical system would be a reason to shut it down...else we have driving fire bombs. 240 is on in my house 24\7 and 480 at work and 13kV at the switch gear.

 

[Firn]

I don't like the limit and have made it known to Ford...

I was using a saw to cut wood for a project...sometimes the cuts were more than 6 minutes apart... It was freaking annoying.

I'm with taxman, I set a limit to not drain the HV below and should be free to use the power when I want without having a load.

I don't think fire in the electrical system would be a reason to shut it down...else we have driving fire bombs. 240 is on in my house 24\7 and 480 at work and 13kV at the switch gear.

There is a lot more wiring, connections, and circuits in your truck than there is in your house! You house also doesn't get shaken, rattled, sprayed with water from the underside, left to completely freeze, baked to 130 degrees, and then shaken, rattled, and rolled some more.

 

[topher10]

I can think of multiple use cases in which there is either a low continuous draw (running lights, fans, or other small accessory while camping) or higher but intermittent draw that are less frequent than 6 mins (chainsaw example above, many work related uses, fridge freezer possibly). It’s hard to believe that in these cases it’s actually safer to leave the entire truck on and energized, although I don’t think it’s unsafe to leave the truck on. It’s our only option.

The biggest issue for me is that none of this is clearly explained in the manual or any other documentation, and thus I could plan some use cases assuming the truck could provide power, only to discover that my use case is not feasible due to truck timing out after 6 mins. I am thankful for this thread because otherwise I would have likely been completely baffled on my next camping trip.

 

[Karlo]

Topher10, I am the originator of this thread and couldn’t agree with you more.

 

[msdickerson]

There is a lot more wiring, connections, and circuits in your truck than there is in your house! You house also doesn't get shaken, rattled, sprayed with water from the underside, left to completely freeze, baked to 130 degrees, and then shaken, rattled, and rolled some more.

Sorry the bulk of switches and connections in the truck are circuit board switches. IE. Computer switches. Most if not all Li battery fires are on cheap poorly regulated toy type items like scooters and kids electric toys. There are so few EV fires in relation to ICE car fires .. percentages .. these descisions be Ford on what to run the Pro power like are simply poorly thought out or reviewed designs made by people that dont get it. Fire wise these trucks are so much safer that gas trucks its really not worth it to talk about it. Ford just has made some poor design descisions about how to set up Pro power. Thats it.

 

[Firn]

Sorry the bulk of switches and connections in the truck are circuit board switches. IE. Computer switches. Most if not all Li battery fires are on cheap poorly regulated toy type items like scooters and kids electric toys. There are so few EV fires in relation to ICE car fires .. percentages .. these descisions be Ford on what to run the Pro power like are simply poorly thought out or reviewed designs made by people that dont get it. Fire wise these trucks are so much safer that gas trucks its really not worth it to talk about it. Ford just has made some poor design descisions about how to set up Pro power. Thats it.

Our trucks may be safer from a battery standpoint when compared to a gas engine but that is aside the point. Many vehicle fires come from the electrical side of things and we have nearly the same electrical architecture the regular f150 does. Regardless ANY powered wire and connection runs the risk of a fire, especially when subjected to the harsh environment a vehicle sees. This isn't a BEV vs ICE thing, PPOB isn't safer, or immune, because it's on a BEV vehicle (and it's also on the ICE vehicle).

 

[msdickerson]

Hate to argue this but easily available national statistics show gas vehicles are 60 times more likely tocatch fire for a wide variety of reasons. A simple hot spot or spark does not make a fire unless the is something highly combustable nearby. Gasoline is extremely combustsble so the slightes seepage of gas plus a tiny spark will do it.

Our trucks may be safer from a battery standpoint when compared to a gas engine but that is aside the point. Many vehicle fires come from the electrical side of things and we have nearly the same electrical architecture the regular f150 does. Regardless ANY powered wire and connection runs the risk of a fire, especially when subjected to the harsh environment a vehicle sees. This isn't a BEV vs ICE thing, PPOB isn't safer, or immune, because it's on a BEV vehicle (and it's also on the ICE vehicle).

 

[Firn]

Hate to argue this but easily available national statistics show gas vehicles are 60 times more likely tocatch fire for a wide variety of reasons. A simple hot spot or spark does not make a fire unless the is something highly combustable nearby. Gasoline is extremely combustsble so the slightes seepage of gas plus a tiny spark will do it.

Nothing i said disagreed with the statistics or that gas and oil are combustable.

Electrical fires are just that, electrical fires. In electrical fires the very connectors and casing burns up, it doesn't have to catch neweby gas or oil on fire, there is plenty of plastic, rubber, etc in either type of vehicle.

Having any wiring energized increases the risk of a fire, the more that's energized the higher the risk regardless of BEV or ICE

 

[John Becker]

So the only extra thing that eats some power would be the screen being on.

Also consider the HV battery temperature management system. I've been monitoring mine on my 2023 Lariat SR. It seems to run continuously regardless of outdoor temperature.

 

[Whammy Bar]

Just get the mobile power cord. Slap the 120v plug end on, plug it in to the Pro Power and the other end into the charge port.

BAM. NO TIMEOUT using the included Ford parts.

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