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Are the characters that are missing the last two in a full set? If so, that may be the checksum set that you see in Forscan. That would be my only guess.

Also @Jesse-Infotainment, to think that bench setup you have there with the mess of wires is all hidden behind the dash, under the hood, and behind panels in the trucks. I wonder how many miles of wire goes into a vehicle these days.

IPMA is in progress. I thought it was going to go quickly, but it seems the long portion of the update is saved until the end. The 10 minute pause at block erase is definitely nerve racking. Going on ~25 minutes of just erasing blocks right now.
You are correct, I just selected the checksum option in the asbuilt viewer and the missing characters showed up..
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Are the characters that are missing the last two in a full set? If so, that may be the checksum set that you see in Forscan. That would be my only guess.

Also @Jesse-Infotainment, to think that bench setup you have there with the mess of wires is all hidden behind the dash, under the hood, and behind panels in the trucks. I wonder how many miles of wire goes into a vehicle these days.

IPMA is in progress. I thought it was going to go quickly, but it seems the long portion of the update is saved until the end. The 10 minute pause at block erase is definitely nerve racking. Going on ~25 minutes of just erasing blocks right now.
That internal process on GAG is a nail biter..
 

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Yes the last two of every line is the checksum
 

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I canceled the Nano I had ordered due to the issues I keep reading about from others. Before I order a Mongoose, I was going to try to convince a friend of mine to let me borrow his Autel programmer. Theoretically any fully compliant J2534-2 would work for this right? He uses his on heavy equipment, but I don’t see why it shouldn’t work as a generic passthrough.

Has anyone here used a device other than a Mongoose, VCM or Nano with FRDS for these updates?

I got one this one that I can borrow MaxiSYS MS919 but I am not sure if it will work. The moongoose is to much money for us in Canada.
 
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I canceled the Nano I had ordered due to the issues I keep reading about from others. Before I order a Mongoose, I was going to try to convince a friend of mine to let me borrow his Autel programmer. Theoretically any fully compliant J2534-2 would work for this right? He uses his on heavy equipment, but I don’t see why it shouldn’t work as a generic passthrough.

Has anyone here used a device other than a Mongoose, VCM or Nano with FRDS for these updates?
Technically yes, any device supporting J2534-2 protocol should work
 

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I got one this one that I can borrow MaxiSYS MS919 but I am not sure if it will work. The moongoose is to much money for us in Canada.
It’s still cheaper than buying the Ford VCM3 at a price of $1,600 USD list. I just spread the cost out, any of my family or friends that want their trucks fixed I ask for a small donation of their choice.
 

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I canceled the Nano I had ordered due to the issues I keep reading about from others. Before I order a Mongoose, I was going to try to convince a friend of mine to let me borrow his Autel programmer. Theoretically any fully compliant J2534-2 would work for this right? He uses his on heavy equipment, but I don’t see why it shouldn’t work as a generic passthrough.

Has anyone here used a device other than a Mongoose, VCM or Nano with FRDS for these updates?
I'm not familiar with the Autel, maybe @Jesse-Infotainment or @iceman77 can chime in. I'd be careful with any fully compliant J2534-2 device or clone. The Mongoose is an approved device by Ford and is proving to be a tool of choice right now for those who cannot afford a VCM3.
 

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I'm not familiar with the Autel, maybe @Jesse-Infotainment or @iceman77 can chime in. I'd be careful with any fully compliant J2534-2 device or clone. The Mongoose is an approved device by Ford and is proving to be a tool of choice right now for those who cannot afford a VCM3.
Only autel I am familiar with it as a generic tool meant for every brand. Ive seen many shops use them for their flexibility.

With these new trucks and platforms I have no idea what the compatibility is or why you would want to try a different device when the mongoose has been proven reliable.
 

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I canceled the Nano I had ordered due to the issues I keep reading about from others. Before I order a Mongoose, I was going to try to convince a friend of mine to let me borrow his Autel programmer. Theoretically any fully compliant J2534-2 would work for this right? He uses his on heavy equipment, but I don’t see why it shouldn’t work as a generic passthrough.

Has anyone here used a device other than a Mongoose, VCM or Nano with FRDS for these updates?
@tonesto7 has used a UCDS adapter that cost him $99 to great success. But you can’t get them right now. https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/ecu-module-programming-guide-using-fdrs.8249/post-182654
 

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The status monitor camera is 16439 steps and I'm about halfway through. Going fairly quick so far. Keeping my fingers crossed I don't run into any issues ??
So you were able to do your updates after all
 

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I searched through the threads - Did anyone ever run into this??

Updated BECM also required to update ABS, SOBD and PCM. However the BECM updated fails out of the gate due to "procedure Unsuccessful - GetVehicleNodeInfo Unknown Error".

Looks like I can still cant get this guy even a month later!
 

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The moongoose is to much money for us in Canada.
Yeah, it’s a little hard to justify after shipping, exchange rate and tax… eh


tonesto7 has used a UCDS adapter to great success. But you can’t get them right now.
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Dang it! I almost bought the official UCDSYS adapter on several occasions over the last few years, but always backed away because they don’t support F150 profiles in their native software.

I considered it for this, so it’s good to learn that someone used it successfully for FRDS updates already on a 14 Gen F150.

I understand why I can’t purchase one at the moment (Russian Sanctions), but if they don’t cause the errors others have mentioned so far, it would be a cost effective middle-ground between a VCX Nano and Mongoose Pro.
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