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[pbd05]

Hate to even say this but I am considering trading my Lighting for a ICE F-150. I drive way to much and am finding myself always stressing over my range. I can only wonder if I would feel the same way in a Extended Range. However I do believe not having complete access to my charger hasn't helped with this. Hopefully we'll be back in the house Friday afternoon and then I want to wait a couple more weeks to see what I think then. Plus a 1,000 mile road trip coming up to NC and back, I should help make up my mind.

I would find it pretty painful myself if I didn't have a charger at home. From the sounds of it you're not starting the day with a full (90%) charge which isn't helping any. I did a 600 mile one day road trip last week with the ER and discovered first hand the sad state of public charging stations.

Don't feel bad though, I've already inquired with my dealer '23 Super Duty order and trading the ER in.

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[Yellow Buddy]

Hate to even say this but I am considering trading my Lighting for a ICE F-150. I drive way to much and am finding myself always stressing over my range. I can only wonder if I would feel the same way in a Extended Range. However I do believe not having complete access to my charger hasn't helped with this. Hopefully we'll be back in the house Friday afternoon and then I want to wait a couple more weeks to see what I think then. Plus a 1,000 mile road trip coming up to NC and back, I should help make up my mind.

Also, I’m not sure if you have any insight into this. Or if @Ford Senior Master does. But any chance of an ER battery swap in the future? Hardware is otherwise the same. The differential might be cheaper than trading it in and sitting onthe waiting list again.

 

[Commercial Sales Ford]

If I’m being honest, I don’t think it’s going to help. That’s a rough trip even with an established and reliable Tesla network. On a scattered public network and with less reliability, you’re going to be stopping g earlier than you need to and spending more time charging on the top end.

I think Ford also needs to adjust their programming. Going yellow with 25% of range left is too aggressive. For me at least I do better not knowing how many miles I have, but just percentage. I’ve been driving EVs for over 6 years now and the F150L gives me anxiety, despite it actually having more range than either of my Teslas right now. It’s not pleasant…

Yes, I'm looking at two trips I have coming up at the end of the month and both of the trips only have 1 stop that will work for me to top off to be able to make it round trip. When I look at the Trip to NC I haven't completely convinced myself we'll even make it the lighting. the one stop has me arriving at 10% and I have it calculated to finish the trip at 10% with no chargers in the area....

 

[Commercial Sales Ford]

I would find it pretty painful myself if I didn't have a charger at home. From the sounds of it you're not starting the day with a full (90%) charge which isn't helping any. I did a 600 mile one day road trip last week with the ER and discovered first hand the sad state of public charging stations.

Don't feel bad though, I've already inquired with my dealer '23 Super Duty order and trading the ER in.

Lately I have not been able to start at 90% and when I do I'm only getting 185-194 on the GOM range and with no extra's in the day I do 90 miles everyday so I just find myself always too worried about it. As they say "everything you own, owns a piece of you too". I'm finding it just owns a little much of me.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Yes, I'm looking at two trips I have coming up at the end of the month and both of the trips only have 1 stop that will work for me to top off to be able to make it round trip. When I look at the Trip to NC I haven't completely convinced myself we'll even make it the lighting. the one stop has me arriving at 10% and I have it calculated to finish the trip at 10% with no chargers in the area....

Finishing isn’t terrible, you can plug in the mobile charger to something when you get there. Might not be fast but if you’re going to be there a while it’s not terrible.

Right now I’d probably plan my backup. If the charger doesn’t work, what do I need to detour to the next. If the answer is 20%, I’d show up with 20%. Just in case for that 1 stop. Which is what will make it suck.

If I had to guess, you’re going to be stopping with 30-35% of range left and going to need to top off to 100%. That’s going to suck. Otherwise you’ll top off to 80% but need a 30-45min round trip detour to grab the next charge.

I have to go to NC myself in a couple of weeks and thought about driving. Quickly said nope to taking the F-150L. I even went through it with the Rivians 315-350 miles and decided the trip is far more reliable in my 210 mile Tesla

 

[pbd05]

There's definitely an added sense of worry with EVs that you don't have with an ICE vehicle with gas station on each corner.

Only 1 of the 4 chargers I visited were actually functioning correctly. First one the screen was out, but it charged and seemed to be giving me a half decent rate. 2nd one was rated at 150kW but I average 35kw. 3rd worked well, got up to 127kW on an empty battery. 4th worked ok but only got up to 80kW (the first charger there only gave me 45kW). I finished my trip with about 5% remaining when I got home, which was planned. My last charge the truck wanted me to stay to 60%, but it was painfully slow so I stopped at 10%. The truck was set to leave 15% in reserve to get home. Overall I've found to the range to be on the safe side of things.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Lately I have not been able to start at 90% and when I do I'm only getting 185-194 on the GOM range and with no extra's in the day I do 90 miles everyday so I just find myself always too worried about it. As they say "everything you own, owns a piece of you too". I'm finding it just owns a little much of me.

This highlights the problem. Even 185 on the GoM and then you do 90. You’re only at 52% SoC. But displaying 95 instills panic. Double digits, gotta find a place to plug.

Vs 52% is more than half. You can do everything you just did and you’d still have 2% left. You’re good. Especially if you grab even an hour or two on a slow charger. There’s definitely EV psychology at play

 

[pbd05]

I find it annoying that you have to look around to find battery % on these trucks....

 

[Commercial Sales Ford]

I find it annoying that you have to look around to find battery % on these trucks....

Use the Calm screen in your dash. Shows Mileage and %

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Use the Calm screen in your dash. Shows Mileage and %

If it only stickied. Mine reverts back quite often, same thing with Sport mode. Wish it would just remember it

 

[Commercial Sales Ford]

This highlights the problem. Even 185 on the GoM and then you do 90. You’re only at 52% SoC. But displaying 95 instills panic. Double digits, gotta find a place to plug.

Vs 52% is more than half. You can do everything you just did and you’d still have 2% left. You’re good. Especially if you grab even an hour or two on a slow charger. There’s definitely EV psychology at play

Bingo you hit the nail on the head. I knew I was going to have to adjust mentally, but it's been harder than expected. We will see how I feel once I have my charger again.

 

[Commercial Sales Ford]

If it only stickied. Mine reverts back quite often, same thing with Sport mode. Wish it would just remember it

Wow, mine stays put in calm all the time. I've never used sport mode surprisingly.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Wow, mine stays put in calm all the time. I've never used sport mode surprisingly.

I like the sport mode so much better. The pedal loosens up. Instead of fighting me to go, it goes.

Mine comes out of calm, I haven’t messed with it to see what causes it. But every couple of days I’m back to the normal screen

 

[mastapsi356]

I've added the calm screen to "My View", so if I want to see the percentage I can just jump to it with one or two button pushes. But I'd still prefer it to be on the normal cluster. I don't charge every day, usually only plug in when I'm below 60% since I charger at work, so it would be nice if I had the percentage more really available.

 

[hturnerfamily]

there's also a 'favorite' bottom icon on my center screen, which I found and added the 'Driver Assist' as the primary go-to screen:
otherwise, you have to access it by pressing the far right 'Features', then 'Driver Assist'

I use this to turn 'Auto Brake Hold' on or off, depending on the need.
I find it useful when in traffic, at long lights, etc., but NOT when I am trying to creep slowly into my tight carport, if I have to press the brake pedal a little too much to pause, it then requires me to press the go pedal a little too 'hard', and can suddenly lurch forward too quickly for my comfort.

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