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Got a dealer PPI today. Modules need updates?

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Coolant low is nothing new, that's why it's on the "maintenance' checks with rotate tires. The others depends if warranty will cover. There is a '23 Lariat ER Max Tow on local Ford dealers lot for $40k US ($60k Cdn). If you are getting it from Carvana for $30k US then go for it - if you are paying full dealer list then pass.
is that a website?
This is a ER with max tow and blue cruise. It was $49k before tax
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They didn’t explain this well. Probably because the guy at the desk admitted he is from the quick lane.
below is what they found. I am just trying to figure out if this is normal for 30,000 or a concern.

17 modules have available updates ā€œford will only warranty updates for TSBs and failuresā€

Coolant low

Left side hybrid battery bracket bent

Codes for air dam and sounder inop

front drive axles wet

this is a ā€˜23 Lariat ER with max tow with 31,000 miles

Im on the 7 day Carvana trial. Love the truck. Just need to know if it is good to buy.
what are your thoughts? Thanks!

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Don't hesitate to notify them that you want to return the truck
https://www.carvana.com/help/purchasing-a-car/what-are-the-limits-of-the-7-day-money-back-guarantee


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LOL you’re saying ā€œreturn the truckā€?
 

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LOL you’re saying ā€œreturn the truckā€?

No, You said it on the other thread. If in doubt dump it now. After 8PM EST today it will be too late.

Take your time and look around. There will be other trucks that will match your requirements.

It’s used. But I’m going to return it to Carvana. Bunch of things wrong with it.
 

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is that a website?
This is a ER with max tow and blue cruise. It was $49k before tax
I sold my perfect 9,000 mile 2023 Lariat ER with Max Tow, Power running boards, spray in Bed Liner to the dealer for $47k. They sold it for $54k that week. Only reason I got rid of it was the deal that I got on a 2024 Platinum. At the time Ford X-Plan offer was $25,000 in rebates, incentives, discounts and zero % financing.
 

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Where are you located? Perhaps one of us can find a truck for sale that is better.
 

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Yeah. I just scheduled the return. Pretty bummed but there are other fish in the sea
From other thread, you are in Western NC.

If you are open to buying a buyback, here is a 14,000 mile Buyback 2023 Lariat with Max Tow in Charlotte NC for $45,499. Dealer can let you know the reason it was bought back. I Lemon Lawed a Ford Truck that was in the shop for over 30 days for delay in getting parts. The new buyer never had another problem with it.

Lots of Lightning owners who bought before price reduction took advantage of buybacks and bought replacement's for less money.

https://capitalfordcharlotte.com/vehicles/2023-ford-f-150-lightning-lariat-g12137-1ft6w1ev3pwg12137

https://www.windowsticker.forddirect.com/windowsticker.pdf?vin=1FT6W1EV3PWG12137


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Modules requiring updates isn't an issue, except that it should be updating OTA.

The left side battery bracket being bent is a warning of how the owner used it. The drive axles being "wet" would have me walking.
I don’t think all the HVB modules can be performed OTA. I’ve had mine updated at the local dealer a couple of times despite my vehicle is getting regular OTA updates (EAP)

That said, I don’t have a clue what’s they’re for or what they do and haven’t noticed a thing after they’ve been updated.

My best guess based off of zero data is that perhaps…
 

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I don’t think all the HVB modules can be performed OTA.
He's referring to functional system modules through out the truck not HVB modules. :wink:
 

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No, You said it on the other thread. If in doubt dump it now. After 8PM EST today it will be too late.

Take your time and look around. There will be other trucks that will match your requirements.
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Ford F-150 Lightning Got a dealer PPI today. Modules need updates? IMG_5716


is this normal rust for a 2023? Seems excessive to me
 
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A Ford dealer with trained and certified EV technicians with a couple years of servicing EVs.
looks like I’ll have to travel 2-3 hours away to do that. How does that process go? How do I know the one I’m o teetering will even be there when I arrive?
 

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looks like I’ll have to travel 2-3 hours away to do that. How does that process go? How do I know the one I’m o teetering will even be there when I arrive?
You can call or text ahead of time. Normally I’ll look at the about us page on the dealer website to see who I’ll be meeting when I get there. Also I’ll try and do some soft negotiating before going. For example I’d ask what the out the door price is.
I mean honestly tho, it’ll probably be cheaper than Carvana lol
 

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I’m not sure how cheap is your truck, but it seems to me buying a used Lightning from a third party isn’t wise decision, since brand new ā€˜24’s are 0 percent apr for 72 months. If you do some math buying used one, paying interest, worrying warranty issues vs brand new with bumper to bumper warranty which if you add everything might cost almost the same as used one .Shop around .I was thinking buying a used one , but when I add everything up ā€˜23 lariat used and ā€˜24 lariat ER where $3000 difference.
 
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I’m not sure how cheap is your truck, but it seems to me buying a used Lightning from a third party isn’t wise decision, since brand new ā€˜24’s are 0 percent apr for 72 months. If you do some math buying used one, paying interest, worrying warranty issues vs brand new with bumper to bumper warranty which if you add everything might cost almost the same as used one .Shop around .I was thinking buying a used one , but when I add everything up ā€˜23 lariat used and ā€˜24 lariat ER where $3000 difference.
I haven’t seen a new ā€˜24 in a while.
I do not qualify for the tax credit.
I can pay cash for a used one so the interest doesn’t factor in.
Where are you seeing 0% these days?
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