Charging in Norway, the EV loving country

[hb.sagen]

EVs in Norway is not taxed (in general). ICE is so heavily taxed that the tax often exceeds the cost of the car. So, a Tesla is cheaper than a VW Passat. EV sales exploded, and so did the charging network. Norway is self sustained on hydro power, so no emissions anywhere in the power chain.

There is a myriad of different charing stations, all offering 150 kW and up. They are at most spaced 10 km apart in the central part of Norway. And they can all charge from ONE app, ELTON. Watching YouTube on the despair of owners in the US, I have to address this. Ship a ton of your EVs over here, they are affordable, easy to charge and home charging is a breeze.

All homes have a smart power meter, and all utility companies offer an easy to use app that can control the charging of an EV. I use Tibber, and I can control any aspect of the Lightning charging from that app. It even halts the charging and gives me money to charge later, when the grid is less utilized. I get a reward in cash for charging when the grid have free capacity. And at the same time ensures my car is fully charged when I need it to be.

I do not have the FordPass app yet, as AT&T doesn't have any coverage here. But I have none of the griefs that apparently is abundant in the US.

Bottom line, the FordPass app isn't the only way. Or the internett is skewed on the problems of charing in the US.

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[Saberdentures]

Just one app to charge anywhere sounds amazing!

To charge my truck I have these apps…
1. Ford pass
2. Emporia energy (home charger)
3. Tesla
4. Electrify America
5. Flo
6. Shell Recharge
7. Chargepoint
8. FPL Evolution
9. Circle K Charge
10. Rivian
11. EV Connect

Most all of these could be “plug and charge” using Ford Pass, but a lot of them have memberships/discounts that require the app, so I’ve never used “plug and charge.” Gotta collect them all Lol

 

[davehu]

I have several apps...but one, Ford Pass is all I need. The others are simply backups... just in case, but I've yet had to use any of them.

 

[B177y]

Just one app to charge anywhere sounds amazing!

To charge my truck I have these apps…
1. Ford pass
2. Emporia energy (home charger)
3. Tesla
4. Electrify America
5. Flo
6. Shell Recharge
7. Chargepoint
8. FPL Evolution
9. Circle K Charge
10. Rivian
11. EV Connect

Most all of these could be “plug and charge” using Ford Pass, but a lot of them have memberships/discounts that require the app, so I’ve never used “plug and charge.” Gotta collect them all Lol

I have your 11, plus:

12. Blink
13. BP Pulse
14. EVCS
15. EV Go
16. ZEF

Not charger network apps, but still essential to find chargers and get reliability reports from users:
17. Plugshare
18. ABRP (A Better Route Planner)

 

[Theredshift]

EVs in Norway is not taxed (in general). ICE is so heavily taxed that the tax often exceeds the cost of the car. So, a Tesla is cheaper than a VW Passat. EV sales exploded, and so did the charging network. Norway is self sustained on hydro power, so no emissions anywhere in the power chain.

There is a myriad of different charing stations, all offering 150 kW and up. They are at most spaced 10 km apart in the central part of Norway. And they can all charge from ONE app, ELTON. Watching YouTube on the despair of owners in the US, I have to address this. Ship a ton of your EVs over here, they are affordable, easy to charge and home charging is a breeze.

All homes have a smart power meter, and all utility companies offer an easy to use app that can control the charing of an EV. I use Tibber, and I can control any aspect of the Lightning changing from that app. It even halts the charging and gives me money to charge later, when the grid is less utilized. I get a reward in cash for charging when the grid have free capacity. And at the same time ensures my car is fully charged when I need it to be.

I do not have the FordPass app yet, as AT&T doesn't have any coverage here. But I have none of the griefs that apparently is abundant in the US.

Bottom line, the FordPass app isn't the only way. Or the internett is skewed on the problems of charing in the US.

I am from kentucky and after reading this, i am truly jealous! Kudos to norway for not just talking environmental friendly, but living it! Smart country! I wish greed and stupidity hadnt taken over america right now. Great post!

 

[chl]

EVs in Norway is not taxed (in general). ICE is so heavily taxed that the tax often exceeds the cost of the car. So, a Tesla is cheaper than a VW Passat. EV sales exploded, and so did the charging network. Norway is self sustained on hydro power, so no emissions anywhere in the power chain.

There is a myriad of different charing stations, all offering 150 kW and up. They are at most spaced 10 km apart in the central part of Norway. And they can all charge from ONE app, ELTON. Watching YouTube on the despair of owners in the US, I have to address this. Ship a ton of your EVs over here, they are affordable, easy to charge and home charging is a breeze.

All homes have a smart power meter, and all utility companies offer an easy to use app that can control the charging of an EV. I use Tibber, and I can control any aspect of the Lightning charging from that app. It even halts the charging and gives me money to charge later, when the grid is less utilized. I get a reward in cash for charging when the grid have free capacity. And at the same time ensures my car is fully charged when I need it to be.

I do not have the FordPass app yet, as AT&T doesn't have any coverage here. But I have none of the griefs that apparently is abundant in the US.

Bottom line, the FordPass app isn't the only way. Or the internett is skewed on the problems of charing in the US.

Now, if Norway would just stop drilling and selling oil!

BTW, my great-grandmother was from Oslo.

 

[hb.sagen]

Now, if Norway would just stop drilling and selling oil!

BTW, my great-grandmother was from Oslo.

What? We would be no better off than any african country without our oil exports. We can’t produce anything. Oil, fish and cross country skiers is our only game. And all our fish is processed in China, and then sold at the local supermarket or exported.

I am an avid DIYer, but I am not allowed to do any electronic, plumbing nor bathroom related work in my own house. Fixing anything is way more expensive than buying a new thing (imported from China).

Soon we will follow Germany, where washing your car at home is a felony. Where would all the chemicals go?

 

[chl]

What? We would be no better off than any african country without our oil exports. We can’t produce anything. Oil, fish and cross country skiers is our only game. And all our fish is processed in China, and then sold at the local supermarket or exported.

I am an avid DIYer, but I am not allowed to do any electronic, plumbing nor bathroom related work in my own house. Fixing anything is way more expensive than buying a new thing (imported from China).

Soon we will follow Germany, where washing your car at home is a felony. Where would all the chemicals go?

Well, as you know, burning oil and other carbon based products is a big problem for the whole planet.

Perhaps your Swedish neighbor Greta Thunberg could suggest some changes?

For example, a combination of phasing out oil and gas exploration and production, investing in renewable energy sources like wind and hydropower, and developing other sectors like technology, tourism, and sustainable maritime industries, are a few ways Norway could help the global climate crisis.

Norway's substantial sovereign wealth fund could be used to finance the transition, supporting research, development, and infrastructure projects.

By taking a comprehensive approach that combines phasing out oil and gas with investments in renewable energy, diversification of the economy, and addressing social and economic impacts, Norway could successfully eliminate its oil exports and become a leader in the global transition to a low-carbon future.

Being an EV loving country is good. But is it enough? It seems the reason for all the EVs in Norway is the proceeds from oil sales which allows the government to provide incentives and exempt them from sales taxes. And there are many free EVSEs, 2000 in Oslo alone I just read.

But diesel vehicles still outnumber EVs in Norway, although that is changing.

The following numbers were looked up using Google so their accuracy is subject to question:

Norway is a much smaller country than the US in area and population so the transition to EVs in the US will take more time. Out country is 2800 miles (4506km) from east to west coasts, and and about 1650 miles (2655 km) from north to south.

We have about 4.1 million miles (6.6 million km) of roads, so providing charging infrastructure is a big job here.

Norway has 92,946 km (57,754 miles) of roads so we have about 71 times what Norway has.

But almost every one I know in the US who owns an EV loves having it and never wants to go back to fossil fuel burning vehicle, no matter where the fuel comes from.

We don't have many free EVSEs to charge our vehicles, and most of charge at home most of the time, which is not free but adds to our electric utility bill unless we have an alternative energy source, like solar panels. Still less expensive than gasoline.

And in many states, EVs are actually charged additional fees every year for road use because our roads are paid for with gasoline (petrol) sales taxes and EVs don't pay them.

So in many ways, it is like comparing apples to oranges, there are very different conditions in the US compared with Norway.

Ta vare!

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