"Gen 2 F-150 Lightning" development leaked in Ford employees' Linkedin profiles

[TwentyTwentyThree]

If its being delayed to shoehorn an EREV option, please don’t put the engine in the frunk. Scout Terra has it figured out!

I think “figured it out” is a strong statement.

I think we all saw the same demonstration vehicles from a different influencer on the internet. The only similarity is - the trucks don’t move. It’s a stationary brick with an extension cord attached to it.

There’s a lot of engineering that will go into this existing vw enginre, even the most rudimentary elements of the engine like cooling and serviceability. Don’t even get me started on the complexity of the bench seat airbag and seat belt configuration for safety tests .

That said, it looks really cool. I want them to succeed.

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[MidAtlanticLightningClub]

It really wouldn't make sense for Ford to have a Gen-2 Lightning and the "T3" electric truck that will be the same size. They would steal sales away from each other and they are already facing an issue of potential low volume. Sure, some buyers may prefer one over the other, but I doubt Ford will spend the money to develop, produce, and market both.

It may be that Ford is spending some resources developing a Gen-2 Lighting just to keep the possibility open as a contingency plan in case they axe the T3 or the market shifts drastically.

T3 has always been planned as a smaller truck.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

I think “figured it out” is a strong statement.

I think we all saw the same demonstration vehicles from a different influencer on the internet. The only similarity is - the trucks don’t move. It’s a stationary brick with an extension cord attached to it.

There’s a lot of engineering that will go into this existing vw enginre, even the most rudimentary elements of the engine like cooling and serviceability. Don’t even get me started on the complexity of the bench seat airbag and seat belt configuration for safety tests .

That said, it looks really cool. I want them to succeed.

With the right engine, it won’t matter where they put it.

I’m thinking the upper glovebox.

 

[MountainAlive]

If its being delayed to shoehorn an EREV option, please don’t put the engine in the frunk. Scout Terra has it figured out!

There’s a crazy amount of room under the truck bed where the spare tire is. I think that’s where scout put their EREV engine.

 

[luebri]

T3 has always been planned as a smaller truck.

source?

 

[MidAtlanticLightningClub]

source?

Multiple. Some were public statements by Ford but the most reliable source has to stay anonymous.

 

[luebri]

Multiple. Some were public statements by Ford but the most reliable source has to stay anonymous.

I remember seeing comments about them focusing on the Aero but nothing on making it "smaller" per say. Im sure it will lighter, but the functional space I imagine will be the same or larger.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

I recall Ford already makes a PHEV Ranger - for markets in S.Africa/NZ/Australia - no word on a full electric Ranger that I know of, but it would be interesting to see them since these are pretty common mid-sized trucks around here, along with the Tacomas.

 

[bmwhitetx]

T3 has always been planned as a smaller truck.

Are you sure you aren't confusing the T3 with the Skunkworks low-cost platform and it's mid-size truck?

Here is a 2024 Ford public statement on both trucks and it doesn't mention the T3 being smaller. Same with the original 2023 T3 press release. I read both of these as the T3 is the next-gen EV truck directly replacing the full-size Lightning. It may be smaller for aero or better layout (more cab-forward) but I expect it still to be full sized interior and cargo.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

GM has the Hummer, Sierra, and Silverado..you can argue they’re different nameplates, but sense it does have not make it.

T3 is also the internal project name. They very well could be one and the same..

Except Farley explicitly stated TTT is not a next gen Lightning and that they had no plans for that. Makes me think they’re referring to ttt.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Are you sure you aren't confusing the T3 with the Skunkworks low-cost platform and it's mid-size truck?

Here is a 2024 Ford public statement on both trucks and it doesn't mention the T3 being smaller. Same with the original 2023 T3 press release. I read both of these at the T3 is the next-gen EV truck directly replacing the full-size Lightning. It may be smaller for aero or better layout (more cab-forward) but I expect it still to be full sized interior and cargo.

This is correct.

 

[WXman]

Yeah that smaller electric truck is allegedly on a "fast track" toward production as they call it in the industry. Should see it in 2027 as a '28 model. A lot of this is happening right up the road from me.

I thought T3 was similar in that it's a dedicated EV platform rather than using ICE F-150 bones, but different in that it's a larger truck.

In any case, range is king which is why EREV is even in the discussion. Scout has been taking pre-orders for quite a while now and "over 80%" of people are wanting the range extender. We don't know yet if that's because people simply want more range, or if it's because that version is as close as people can get to an ICE vehicle, but what that does tell us is that they do NOT want a pure EV.

 

[RipInPepz]

Well, my lease is up in August 2029. So hopefully its out by then and there are some decent lease deals!

 

[ka-chow]

Boy you gotta know it kills Brian @Ford Motor Company to see these threads and not be able to say a word

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

Yeah that smaller electric truck is allegedly on a "fast track" toward production as they call it in the industry. Should see it in 2027 as a '28 model. A lot of this is happening right up the road from me.

I thought T3 was similar in that it's a dedicated EV platform rather than using ICE F-150 bones, but different in that it's a larger truck.

In any case, range is king which is why EREV is even in the discussion. Scout has been taking pre-orders for quite a while now and "over 80%" of people are wanting the range extender. We don't know yet if that's because people simply want more range, or if it's because that version is as close as people can get to an ICE vehicle, but what that does tell us is that they do NOT want a pure EV.

OR
it tells us they don't really know what they want, so they lean towards what seems most familiar.

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