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Can anyone recommend a mobile battery charger they have just in case the 12V battery in the fronk dies? I have read there are a lot of issues with the 12V battery dying which means the truck is DOA and needs to be towed without a charger available. I'd like to keep one in the truck and not sure if the onboard power from the non-12V battery will be available to power the charger. Suggestions welcome.
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Can anyone recommend a mobile battery charger they have just in case the 12V battery in the fronk dies? I have read there are a lot of issues with the 12V battery dying which means the truck is DOA and needs to be towed without a charger available. I'd like to keep one in the truck and not sure if the onboard power from the non-12V battery will be available to power the charger. Suggestions welcome.
Well probably what you want is a 12V jump pack. I know others may disagree but I'm partial to an old-school lead acid one. They can still be had with the reverse polarity protection, but none that I've ever seen have that annoying issue of an automatic timeout that shuts it off right when you might need the boost to jump the car (like what was seen in Kyle's YouTube video with his leaf). Plus they can deliver way more amps so even if you need to start a friend or stranger's gas car or truck, you'll have no problem.

I don't go anywhere without mine and I keep it in the frunk so that even if the battery dies, I can use the key blade to open the driver's door and the manual backup release to open the trunk.

Here's one similar to what I have, complete with added reverse polarity protection:
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Can anyone recommend a mobile battery charger they have just in case the 12V battery in the fronk dies? I have read there are a lot of issues with the 12V battery dying which means the truck is DOA and needs to be towed without a charger available. I'd like to keep one in the truck and not sure if the onboard power from the non-12V battery will be available to power the charger. Suggestions welcome.
Can anyone recommend a mobile battery charger they have just in case the 12V battery in the fronk dies? I have read there are a lot of issues with the 12V battery dying which means the truck is DOA and needs to be towed without a charger available. I'd like to keep one in the truck and not sure if the onboard power from the non-12V battery will be available to power the charger. Suggestions welcome.
I believe this will work for you. It's a 12V LiFePO4 battery with a built-in Battery Management System [BMS]. The original battery is also rated at 50AH. I believe the BMS would allow you to direct substitute it for your factory battery.

I probably would use it all the time, but to get you out of a pickle, it should work great. The good thing about LiFePO4 is you can charge them and they stay charge for a very long time.... and they are small and light. So charge it and store it in the Frunk.

You'll have to add adequate jumpers to connect the battery to your existing disconnected cables, but that's easy. Be sure to isolate the ends of your jumpers to keep them from touching.

What does the rest of the group think? Do you think it will work? Why wouldn't it?

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I believe this will work for you. It's a 12V LiFePO4 battery with a built-in Battery Management System [BMS]. The original battery is also rated at 50AH. I believe the BMS would allow you to direct substitute it for your factory battery.

I probably would use it all the time, but to get you out of a pickle, it should work great. The good thing about LiFePO4 is you can charge them and they stay charge for a very long time.... and they are small and light. So charge it and store it in the Frunk.

You'll have to add adequate jumpers to connect the battery to your existing disconnected cables, but that's easy. Be sure to isolate the ends of your jumpers to keep them from touching.

What does the rest of the group think? Do you think it will work? Why wouldn't it?

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I'm going to replace the stock 35Ah AGM with this one, has the battery terminals on the same end like the original just add adapters as shown, and is almost identical in dimensions.

The only caveat to using these type of batteries is temperature, LFP does not like it cold, extreme cold that is, will charge and discharge well below the temps I see down here. They also make them with built in heaters for extreme climates.

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I have a solar system for powering my home and I use this brand exclusively. Customer service is top notch! Only had to contact them for a couple of issues which they promptly remedied with other products they make, haven't had any issues with their batteries.
 

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I have one of those made in china jump packs that take a dewalt battery, and I always have a charged battery and charger in the vehicle if needed. I replace my 12v every 2 years and monitor its condition with a tester
Also have a multimeter, tire inflator that takes dewalt batteries, tire plug kit, tow straps, tool set, work light.
 

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I'm going to replace the stock 35Ah AGM with this one, has the battery terminals on the same end like the original just add adapters as shown, and is almost identical in dimensions.

The only caveat to using these type of batteries is temperature, LFP does not like it cold, extreme cold that is, will charge and discharge well below the temps I see down here. They also make them with built in heaters for extreme climates.

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I have a solar system for powering my home and I use this brand exclusively. Customer service is top notch! Only had to contact them for a couple of issues which they promptly remedied with other products they make, haven't had any issues with their batteries.
The bms of the lightning is expecting the charge profile of an agm battery and afaik you can’t change it to lithium. There are options by a company I think it’s called omhu that has a lithium battery that has circuitry on it that spoofs it as an agm battery to the truck when it wants a charge but it’s pretty expensive and looks like poor build quality. It’s discussed on some forums maybe this one too
Either way I wouldn’t suggest just hooking up a 12v off the shelf lithium battery as the truck won’t charge it correctly
 

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The bms of the lightning is expecting the charge profile of an agm battery and afaik you can’t change it to lithium. There are options by a company I think it’s called omhu that has a lithium battery that has circuitry on it that spoofs it as an agm battery to the truck when it wants a charge but it’s pretty expensive and looks like poor build quality. It’s discussed on some forums maybe this one too
Either way I wouldn’t suggest just hooking up a 12v off the shelf lithium battery as the truck won’t charge it correctly
The voltages are near identical, it won't make any difference. I've already proven this with the battery array for my home solar system.

The inverter is set for lead acid which is what agm is and charges them just fine.

If you're concerned about compatibility, don't buy one. My post was not a recommendation for anyone else, it was and still is a simple statement of what I am doing.
 

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ok chief, you do you. i hope people don't read your post and think its a good idea that's why ill follow up
the difference between a solar array and the lightning is a solar array is going to charge when theirs sun, but the lightning only provides a charge when it detects the AGM battery is under 40% SOC or does a force charge when its under 30% SOC. SOC is detected by battery voltage. take a look at the AGM and lithium discharge voltage curves and tell me what SOC your lithium battery will be at when the truck determines it needs to be charged and what SOC it will stop providing power to charge it
here is the lithium battery that has a BMS that spoofs its actual voltage to the lightning to trigger the vehicle to charge the battery and stop when its full. I didn't buy this and there are pro's (more stable charge state) and cons (expense, availability) so ill stick to replacing my AGM every 2-3 years
https://www.ohmmu.com/product-page/12v-lithium-battery-for-ford-f-150-lightning
 

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ok chief, you do you. i hope people don't read your post and think its a good idea that's why ill follow up
the difference between a solar array and the lightning is a solar array is going to charge when theirs sun, but the lightning only provides a charge when it detects the AGM battery is under 40% SOC or does a force charge when its under 30% SOC. SOC is detected by battery voltage. take a look at the AGM and lithium discharge voltage curves and tell me what SOC your lithium battery will be at when the truck determines it needs to be charged and what SOC it will stop providing power to charge it
here is the lithium battery that has a BMS that spoofs its actual voltage to the lightning to trigger the vehicle to charge the battery and stop when its full. I didn't buy this and there are pro's (more stable charge state) and cons (expense, availability) so ill stick to replacing my AGM every 2-3 years
https://www.ohmmu.com/product-page/12v-lithium-battery-for-ford-f-150-lightning
The only difference since you seem to want an argument, is the discharge curve, the LFP is pretty flat from start to finish, the SLA aka AGM has a constant drop from start to finish. If anything, It'll keep the main HVB from having to charge it as often.

FYI genius, I've had a 12v lithium in my motorcycle for 13 years. Still works like new. When you get some education on this topic and stop reading marketing material, come back and we'll chat.
 

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Experts in the Mach-E forum (same battery) have said that a larger battery doesn't work with Ford's BMS.

To the OP, you need a jump pack with a boost button. And, if the battery can be jumped with a pack, then the tow truck driver you called can do it with his 12v...
 

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are we arguing? i thought were just having a discussion on batteries
your motorcycle would charge your battery continuously when the engine is running with a low current that your lithium bms can handle in over current. the lightning only charges the battery when it detects a low voltage and it stops charging when the battery reaches a higher voltage, it does not have an alternator running with constant current.
be sure hold onto your agm and keep it in the truck and look up how to open your frunk without power
I do think were derailing this thread, as the OP was asking about a boost before you went on a tangent about replacing your AGM with a LifePo4. Sorry op, like i said earlier i like the booster packs that take your tool battery of choice or one of those rescue packs
 

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are we arguing? i thought were just having a discussion on batteries
your motorcycle would charge your battery continuously when the engine is running with a low current that your lithium bms can handle in over current. the lightning only charges the battery when it detects a low voltage and it stops charging when the battery reaches a higher voltage, it does not have an alternator running with constant current.
be sure hold onto your agm and keep it in the truck and look up how to open your frunk without power
I do think were derailing this thread, as the OP was asking about a boost before you went on a tangent about replacing your AGM with a LifePo4. Sorry op, like i said earlier i like the booster packs that take your tool battery of choice or one of those rescue packs
I'm explaining, you're arguing, and no longer with me. I have extensive experience in electrical/electronics. I know what I'm talking about. Go right ahead and listen to the marketing fodder and drain your wallet if you like, makes no difference to me.
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