1760 mile trip - 0 EA charging

[Robert1380]

I would double check your paperwork an/ or contact your dealer about the FCSP.

Will do

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[flyct]

Huh. Dealer said nothing about this and I bought the truck two days ago. So who would I call to get this incentive?

Look at your sales contract rebate line. They probably included it in the deal on the rebate line. How much was the value of the rebates on the contract?

A decent dealer would have educated you with your options but some just max out rebates to make the bottom line as low as possible.

Here are the basic rebates for a 2025 Platinum per web site. Looks like there are $5000 total


Retail Bonus CashProgram #11444: Take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 06/02/2025. See dealer for complete details.Amount: $1,000, Offer Valid: 04/24/2025-06/02/2025

Retail Bonus CashProgram #11442: Take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 07/07/2025. See dealer for complete details.Amount: $4,000, Offer Valid: 05/01/2025-07/07/2025

 

[Robert1380]

Look at your sales contract rebate line. They probably included it in the deal on the rebate line. How much was the value of the rebates on the contract?

A decent dealer would have educated you with your options but some just max out rebates to make the bottom line as low as possible.

Here are the basic rebates for a 2025 Platinum per web site. Looks like there are $5000 total


Retail Bonus CashProgram #11444: Take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 06/02/2025. See dealer for complete details.Amount: $1,000, Offer Valid: 04/24/2025-06/02/2025

Retail Bonus CashProgram #11442: Take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 07/07/2025. See dealer for complete details.Amount: $4,000, Offer Valid: 05/01/2025-07/07/2025

So I got 4500 in rebates but 500 was for First Responder. Didn’t see anything regarding a separate rebate in lieu of a charging station. Then there was another 6 or 7 grand back in incentives but I’ll check the contract.

 

[flyct]

So I got 4500 in rebates but 500 was for First Responder. Didn’t see anything regarding a separate rebate in lieu of a charging station. Then there was another 6 or 7 grand back in incentives but I’ll check the contract.

Call the dealer ans ask them. The $500 may be buried in the incentives.

I leased my 2024 Platinum in February when the incentives and rebates were HUGE for X-Plan. Those deals expired 4/2/2025. At that time Ford was offering $1,000 to opt out of the charger and installation deal.

This is the breakdown i got with my X-Plan paperwork when I signed the Lease deal.

Dealer Assignment (Use this section to assign payment to dealer.)
1. I assign payment of the Customer Cash Incentive(s) to the selling dealer.
2. I acknowledge incentive(s) reflect as either a reduction on the Bill of Sale or Lease or as a check back to the customer or a combination thereof. Program Dollar Customer's

Program 11316 $615.00 3 year Blue Cruise rebate
Program 11372 $1,000.00 Charge Station Pro delete rebate
Program 32584 $2,000.00 Exclusive/Private Cash Offer
Program 50622 $9,500.00 EV Red Carpet Lease Incentive
Program 90180 $1,000.00 X-Plan Bonus Cash
Program 90194 $7,500.00 X-Plan Customer Cash

 

[Robert1380]

Call the dealer ans ask them. The $500 may be buried in the incentives.

I leased my 2024 Platinum in February when the incentives and rebates were HUGE for X-Plan. Those deals expired 4/2/2025. At that time Ford was offering $1,000 to opt out of the charger and installation deal.

This is the breakdown i got with my X-Plan paperwork when I signed the Lease deal.

Dealer Assignment (Use this section to assign payment to dealer.)
1. I assign payment of the Customer Cash Incentive(s) to the selling dealer.
2. I acknowledge incentive(s) reflect as either a reduction on the Bill of Sale or Lease or as a check back to the customer or a combination thereof. Program Dollar Customer's

Program 11316 $615.00 3 year Blue Cruise rebate
Program 11372 $1,000.00 Charge Station Pro delete rebate
Program 32584 $2,000.00 Exclusive/Private Cash Offer
Program 50622 $9,500.00 EV Red Carpet Lease Incentive
Program 90180 $1,000.00 X-Plan Bonus Cash
Program 90194 $7,500.00 X-Plan Customer Cash

Interesting. I’m gonna have to go back thru and check all this out. Left messages for two people that handled my purchase and haven’t gotten a call back but thanks very much for pointing this out to me. Appreciate all you guys and your help.

 

[astrand1]

Now I am going to grumble about EA. I have a desert trip planned for tomorrow that will be 650 - 700 miles. So obviously several DC charging stops along the way. One of those stops is planned in Baker, Calif. which has a large Tesla SC installation, but is not compatible with our trucks Right next to the Tesla SC is an EA station with 12 stalls. Another one of my planned stops is in Fenner, Calif. (I-40 about 40 miles west of Needles, Calif). That has a 7 stall EA station. Neither of these locations has any alternative other than a 2 stall 50 KW EVgo station in Baker, and level 2 charging in Goffs (10 miles east of Fenner). I have been checking availability in both FordPass and the EA app at both of those stations at least once per day (usually more) for the past several weeks. Both have always had stalls available. A day or two ago, the Fenner station changed to "All chargers at this station are currently unavailable." Yesterday afternoon, the Baker station also is reporting all chargers unavailable. The Fenner station outage is not that much of a problem as i will be going to Needles (or at least close) and there are several Tesla and EA fast chargers available. However the Baker outage is a problem as it would make an about 300 mile leg between charges including 50 miles of dirt road and all of it in the middle of nowhere. If I can't charge in Baker, I will have to change the second part of the trip. Kind of a bummer.

I don't know what is going on with those two stations, but thier timing sucks for me.

If I was you I’d stop in needles and charge at the SC. There are 2 in needles but one is a flat .25kwh which is wicked cheap! I always stop there whether I need juice or not. It’s just rude not to stop at that price! that is membership pricing just to be clear.

 

[K6CCC]

If I was you I’d stop in needles and charge at the SC. There are 2 in needles but one is a flat .25kwh which is wicked cheap! I always stop there whether I need juice or not. It’s just rude not to stop at that price! that is membership pricing just to be clear.

I did. Because the Fenner EA station was down, I went farther east than planned (Goffs) because Needles was now required. It was about 60 miles out of my, but I made it productive with some additional GeoCaches logged. And both Needles SC sites were $0.26 / KWH so we went to the farther NW location - which just happed to be at the last GeoCache we logged.

And reference to my grumble, the Baker EA station was working fine yesterday. Sucked up 73KWH.

 

[CavRider]

Interesting. I’m gonna have to go back thru and check all this out. Left messages for two people that handled my purchase and haven’t gotten a call back but thanks very much for pointing this out to me. Appreciate all you guys and your help.

It does not appear that anyone mentioned it here yet so apologies if I missed it. You should check with your power utility to see if they offer a Time of Use rate for EV charging. This can be a substantial savings. For example in my area I pay $0.065/kWh to charge overnight vs the normal rate of 4x that. If they do offer that you are likely going to have to get your electrician back out there to install a separate meter that the utility will likely provide. The utility is also very likely going to want that charger hardwired so that they can know the circuit is being used only for EV charging. Worth it though I think.

 

[Robert1380]

It does not appear that anyone mentioned it here yet so apologies if I missed it. You should check with your power utility to see if they offer a Time of Use rate for EV charging. This can be a substantial savings. For example in my area I pay $0.065/kWh to charge overnight vs the normal rate of 4x that. If they do offer that you are likely going to have to get your electrician back out there to install a separate meter that the utility will likely provide. The utility is also very likely going to want that charger hardwired so that they can know the circuit is being used only for EV charging. Worth it though I think.

So I did in fact contact our electric utility provider and they were able to do a rate change. I asked if they needed anything more installed and he said no. He just informed me that charging between 1600 and 2100hrs is .53 per KWh and from 2100 to 1600 is .23 per KWh.

 

[CavRider]

So I did in fact contact our electric utility provider and they were able to do a rate change. I asked if they needed anything more installed and he said no. He just informed me that charging between 1600 and 2100hrs is .53 per KWh and from 2100 to 1600 is .23 per KWh.

Interesting. Without a separate meter I wonder how they know to segregate your EV charging usage from other usage (e.g AC). Good deal though if they just reduced your rate between 2100 to 1600 because you got an EV.

 

[RickLightning]

Interesting. Without a separate meter I wonder how they know to segregate your EV charging usage from other usage (e.g AC). Good deal though if they just reduced your rate between 2100 to 1600 because you got an EV.

My utility has multiple plans, like many, and only one requires that I get a separate meter. Of course a separate meter has its own monthly cost, not to mention electrician costs on my end.

I switched from the 24/7 rate plan to a plan that gives me a slightly higher rate from 11AM to 7PM M-F, but a much lower rate all other hours. It's for EVERYTHING. When I did the analysis after ordering a PHEV, it was cheaper to switch before the car arrived, so we did.

Between 11AM and 7PM we don't do laundry, or run the dishwasher. Beyond making dinner and the occasional baking that can't be done in the morning, we moved our big usage outside those hours. 80% or more of our usage is outside those hours as I recall, haven't looked recently.

A year or so ago, the utility company cancelled their 24/7 plan and forced everyone (except those on plans like me) to a plan with a 11AM to 3PM peak rate that is quite high, so I'm glad we changed when we did. I do lose a "senior discount" but it's not big.

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