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#9 makes me think that tone is shifting from early 2022 to mid 2022. For most of us, it will likely be fall/early 2023.
Time to adjust the plans.

 

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#9 makes me think that tone is shifting from early 2022 to mid 2022. For most of us, it will likely be fall/early 2023.
Time to adjust the plans.
I don't recall anyone saying early 2022. What I heard was Spring 2022 to begin deliveries. Spring ends around June 21. So expect a trickle of deliveries in June. If Ford really plans to sell 80,000 the first year, they aren't all going to be delivered at once. Expect 15,000 — 20,000 per month starting in July. Having said that, no one can predict what fresh hell will erupt between now and then and cause delays,
 
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He mentioned a few times they could have set the price $20k higher but really want mass adoption and pricing in line with the ICE trucks.

Also told some funny stories about customer focus groups in Texas with some good old boys when they were looking for opinions of electric trucks. Very down to earth, likeable and smart guy.
 
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Also said the Pro trucks will be coming early. I specifically asked if retail buyers with early reservations will get theirs first and was told ‘we hope so’.
 

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To clarify, the 300 mile range with 1000 payload is with Standard battery? (compared to the official 230 mile number on their website)
 

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@F150_Xpress , do you know if Ford will be doing previews in other areas of the country, or are these they limited to areas near Ford labs/facilities?
 

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Thank you for getting as many questions answered as possible. I cant wait to get mine.
 
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To clarify, the 300 mile range with 1000 payload is with Standard battery? (compared to the official 230 mile number on their website)
Yes- the platinum trim level truck shown at the event has the larger battery by default. I apologize as I don’t know the name of it.
 
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So that's about 260 miles total range. Being a platinum we will assume the ER battery
Same comments about range apply to the 260 miles at 100% here and the 472 miles at 100% here.

The 300 mile range which Ford says was done with 1,000# load in the bed is accurate with maybe 10-20 miles better in EPA tests but not put on sticker as many mfgs do (Porsche on Taycan and Ford on MachE). The 15% added load of the 1,000 lb in the cargo bed is significant.
 
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Same comments about range apply to the 260 miles at 100% here and the 472 miles at 100% here.

The 300 mile range which Ford says was done with 1,000# load in the bed is accurate with maybe 10-20 miles better in EPA tests but not put on sticker as many mfgs do (Porsche on Taycan and Ford on MachE). The 15% added load of the 1,000 lb in the cargo bed is significant.
I asked the definition of payload and was told it included the bed, frunk and passenger space.
 

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I don’t believe the 10% Pro number for a minute. No way, no how. EVERY headline was “40k Lightning”. A HUGE percentage of the reservations had to be people wanting a 40k Lightning.
The survey likely went to previous F150 owners. I think it would be safe that they’re not downgrading their trim, so most responded with higher trim answers. The “new to Ford/pickup/F150/BEV” people (like me) are excited to get into the game with a lower buy in that checks the boxes.

With so many of us interested in the Pro on this forum, would be cool if Katzkin hopped on with a discount code to cover the vinyl (and add heated seats). ?
 

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I don’t believe the 10% Pro number for a minute. No way, no how. EVERY headline was “40k Lightning”. A HUGE percentage of the reservations had to be people wanting a 40k Lightning.
You have to consider a good portion of people paying money to reserve a car that's not even going to be available for a year aren't your typical bargain hunters. It stands to reason that a higher percentage of early reservation holders would be inclined to spend on all the goodies than in the general population of owners once these reach general availability.

Also worth comparing just to breakdown of normal F-150 trims. Anyone know what percentage XLs are to other trims as far as sales? I bet XLT and Lariat make up a strong majority with XL and Plat/KR/Limited being a bit behind the rest. Would make sense to see the same here, most average consumers tend to pick in the middle of their options, I wouldn't expect that many to be buying Pros. They'll kill it with fleet sales, but how many average consumers want a car with vinyl seats geared towards tradesmen and fleet customers?

 

 
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