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The hex display in forscan may be convenient, but is very misleading. Either the UI should be much smarter about the data being changed or it should be done in binary. In this day and age why data structures like this exist are beyond imagination.
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The hex display in forscan may be convenient, but is very misleading. Either the UI should be much smarter about the data being changed or it should be done in binary. In this day and age why data structures like this exist are beyond imagination.
Well first we shouldn't even know about this stuff or be able to change it. You have to remember this program was developed for/by Russians who needed to modify Fords decades ago. Ford would never condone this.

I think BMW's have some similar capability but our Hyundai, Pilot and Kia never did. So I'm thankful for what we got.

The FORScan folks have enabled a plain English mode for many of these changes so they are aware of the complexity. It does the hex math behind the scenes.

As for binary, I agree it would simplify many of these parameters. But the issue is that not everything is on/off. A lot of the values are integers. And some parameters have more than 2 possible values so use 2 or more bits.
 
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Ok, so I went through your settings and your logic is sound. You do end up with some unicorn values. I am curious about it being a 2024 only problem. In looking at the As-Builts of 22-23's, it would seem that all 22-23 Pros and XLT w/o ACC would also not see the speed limit display on their dash. The values you enabled for your 24 are also disabled for the 22-23's.

So if true, this could also help 22-23 trucks that don't have ACC see speed limits.

Here is my additional analysis. If you're game you might change the first IPC back to original 4 to verify if it's needed. Maybe the second IPC also.


=============================== my notes in red
IPC
720-03-02
- Enable Traffic Sign Recognition (TSR) seemed logical, maybe not necessary?
As built C8(4)D 296A - change 4 to C
4 = TSR disabled • TS enabled • TBS disabled • TSP disabled
C = TSR enabled • TS enabled • TBS disabled • TSP disabled
Since all 22-24 Lightnings have a "4", I agree this change may not be needed.

720-09-01 Enable SLIF - again, maybe not necessary?
As Built 6062-1554-(1)975
1 = SLIF disabled • HUDC No_HUD • FCWARTTC ON
9 = SLIF enabled • HUDC No_HUD • FCWARTTC ON
SLIF= "speed limit information functions", matches trims with ACC so likely needed unless it's just used for the ACC part. So could change it back to As-Built and see what happens. Same for all 22-24.

APIM
7D0-09-02
- Traction Control/IVD/RSC (TCIVDRSC) • Adaptive Cruise (AC) • TSR NCAP Adaptations (TSRNCAPA) - This enabled the TSR, trucks with Adaptive cruise would probably be different
As Built C065-5(4)00-0560
4 = TCIVDRSC TC • AC Disabled • TSRNCAPA Disabled
5 = TCIVDRSC TC • AC Disabled • TSRNCAPA Enabled
7 = TCIVDRSC TC • AC Enabled • TSRNCAPA Enabled
22-24's with IACC have a 7.
22-24's w/o IACC have a 4.
Like you show, 5 would enable TSR but keep AC disabled.


Traffic Sign Recognition (TSR) • TPMS By Location (TPMSBL) • TPMS Placard Pressure Display (TPMSPPD) • Centerstack Settings (CS)
As Built C065-5400-0(5)60
5 = TSR Disabled • TPMSBL Enabled • TPMSPPD Disabled • CS Enabled
D = TSR Enabled • TPMSBL Enabled • TPMSPPD Disabled • CS Enabled
Matches 22-24 as-builts with and without ACC

IPMA
706-01-01

ModuleFeatureCfg_TSR (MFCTSR) • ModuleFeatureCfg_IACC (MFCIACC)
As Built 0E(0)0-8055-8E80
0 = MFCTSR Off • MFCIACC Disabled
4 = MFCTSR SLIF • MFCIACC Disabled
5 = MFCTSR SLIF • MFCIACC Enabled
22-24's with IACC have a 5.
22-24's w/o IACC have a 0.
Like you show, 4 would enable TSR SLIF but keep AC disabled.


706-02-01
FeatureCfg_TSRMode (FCTSRM) • FeatureCfg_LKSMyKey (FCLKSMK) • FeatureCfg_LKSStrategy (FCLKSS) • FeatureCfg_DPAC_WrdRemoteCamera (FCDPACWRC)
As Built (2)B67-FFCC-016E
2B = FCTSRM OFF • FCLKSMK OFF • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present
4B = FCTSRM CameraOnlyOn • FCLKSMK OFF • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present
6B = FCTSRM FusionOn • FCLKSMK OFF • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present

As Built for Lightnings
32 = FCTSRM OFF • FCLKSMK ON • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Absent 22-23 Pro
33 = FCTSRM OFF • FCLKSMK ON • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present 22-23 XLT 311A
73 = FCTSRM FusionOn • FCLKSMK ON • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present 22-23 IACC
2B = FCTSRM OFF • FCLKSMK OFF • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present 24 XLT
6B = FCTSRM FusionOn • FCLKSMK OFF • FCLKSS Non_EuNCAP • FCDPACWRC Present 24 Flash and above
good morning, I was able to make the change on the IPC for 720-03–02 back to The as built of 4 and the speed limit sign detection and display still seem to be functioning properly. So my take away is that you were correct and that change is indeed unneeded. I will continue to work through them one at a time until we get this to 100%.
 

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I have a 2024 Platinum and the Beosonic change did not work for me either.
Just want to add my 24 Platinum also doesn't seem to work with the Beosonic mod.
I get the menu tab for eq and Beosonic but I can't select either option, it just does nothing.

Might need to update the sheet, maybe 24's can't use this because of unknown changes? My truck is only about 4 months old and has nearly every module current even.
 

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Did the Forscan glare free, trailer side & camera button on my 2023 LER successfully yesterday. Couple of evening trips show it working fine. The white headlight button with the green A has been replaced with all green. I notice also that you can't manually turn on the high beams over 30 mph, just turn the glare free on or off, but not complaining. Thanks @bmwhitetx for your help & advise !!
 

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You can hold back on the stalk to get high beams (flash to pass style) if needed but to manually turn the high beams on or off you have to set the headlight selector to manual mode.
Don't think I couldn't get HB's at all, even to flash by pulling back or forward, but I could have just been pushing forward - I'll have to re-check that.
By "manual mode" I presume you're referring to Position D - Headlamps On ? I'll have to try that, hadn't noticed that option. Sounds like that might disengage the glare free feature ? Too many options, give me the old button in the floorboard :crackup:
 
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Don't think I couldn't get HB's at all, even to flash by pulling back or forward, but I could have just been pushing forward - I'll have to re-check that.
By "manual mode" I presume you're referring to Position D - Headlamps On ? I'll have to try that, hadn't noticed that option. Sounds like that might disengage the glare free feature ? Too many options, give me the old button in the floorboard :crackup:
Here is the glare-free operation manual including how to override
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/forum/threads/glare-free-light-operation.21435/post-477276
 

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Well, I don't have the "Glare-free" on/off button on the Lighting screen for starters. I do get the all green glare free symbol.

The system worked as expected last two nights, you can see the typical left side high beam disappear, with some of the center lenses twitching on & off. GF also seems to react quicker on & off than the other auto high beam system, which sometimes would take 3-5 seconds to return.

I also get no response and never see the blue high beam symbol if I push the stalk forward with GF engaged. I can get the GF system to cycle on and off with repeated stalk pushes. I'll have to try the standard high beam setting.

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Well, I don't have the "Glare-free" on/off button on the Lighting screen for starters. I do get the all green glare free symbol.

The system worked as expected last two nights, you can see the typical left side high beam disappear, with some of the center lenses twitching on & off. GF also seems to react quicker on & off than the other auto high beam system, which sometimes would take 3-5 seconds to return.

I also get no response and never see the blue high beam symbol if I push the stalk forward with GF engaged. I can get the GF system to cycle on and off with repeated stalk pushes. I'll have to try the standard high beam setting.

Lighting Options Sans Glare Free.jpg
Check to be sure the APIM settings are correct. You might want to try a Sync reset to see if the options show up.
 

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Check to be sure the APIM settings are correct. You might want to try a Sync reset to see if the options show up.
I've checked the settings. Screen reset after each write cycle in Forscan & I did an additional one after finishing. I'm presuming it does a reset every on/off startup as well.
 

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Thanks! I'll add the door ajar one (with edit for 24-hour clock). I already had the seat belt chime in there.

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Note this is one of the addresses that has less than 10 bytes of info, only 6.
So it's "xxxx xx--" instead of "xxxx xxxx xx--"
I was searching for a fix for my 24-hour clock that keeps reseting itself to AM/PM when I use the Sync clock settings. Does this forscan setting stay permanent or does it still have the bug of switching back to AM/PM?
 
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That instruction is not accurate for my truck. Pushing forward does not cycle through like that and the high beams will not turn on that way.
It worked for me in Park, that's how I got the IPC pics. I haven't tried it while driving. Be curious if it works that way for Canadian trucks that have this factory enabled. If, so there is likely a setting we're missing.

Any Canadians out there with factory glare-free that can send me your VIN?
 

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Has anyone successfully turned off seatbelt reminder on a 24? I updated forscan with no luck and the manual option doesn't work either. Just want to ask.
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Just reporting that I was not able to get Beosonic working on 23 Platinum with B&O Unleashed. All I could get was the tab for Beosonic but nothing would appear. The equalizer tab was also broken so I had to revert all changes.

I see others reporting the same behavior.

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Just reporting that I was not able to get Beosonic working on 23 Platinum with B&O Unleashed. All I could get was the tab for Beosonic but nothing would appear. The equalizer tab was also broken so I had to revert all changes.

I see others reporting the same behavior.

IMG_1826.jpeg
Thanks, I'm going to remove it from the first post. It's still documented in this thread but not worthy of front page.
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