Introducing Ford AI Assistant

[PJnc284]

Ford obviously has a long way to go even in things that rely solely on the human mind, let alone AI.

Yup. A world where Ford is using AI scares me since they have a hard enough time making the app and software on the truck itself work right.

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[SpaceEVDriver]

Your negative folks on AI need to carry a little card in your wallet that says in the event of an emergency you don’t want to be treated with anything related to AI. Put your money where your mouth is.

AI can now interpret radiographs better and more reliably than human radiologists, e.g., mammograms. Deep Mind scientists won the Nobel Prize for AlphaFold, which no human mind can duplicate. Ford obviously has a long way to go even in things that rely solely on the human mind, let alone AI.

If you are an expert in anything, you know that publicly-available ai isn’t an expert in anything and cannot be an expert in anything.

Just 0.001% bad data (one bad or malicious data token in every 100,000 data tokens) in AIs means you have a system that pushes misinformation and disinformation and creates more harm than good.

Medical ais ingest millions to billions of pieces of data from nobody knows what sources (because though they’re happy to steal form anyone and everyone, they won’t share who they’ve stolen from), including the cesspool of the internet at large.

I regularly reject all ai in my medical interactions.


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-024-03445-1

The adoption of large language models (LLMs) in healthcare demands a careful analysis of their potential to spread false medical knowledge. Because LLMs ingest massive volumes of data from the open Internet during training, they are potentially exposed to unverified medical knowledge that may include deliberately planted misinformation. Here, we perform a threat assessment that simulates a data-poisoning attack against The Pile, a popular dataset used for LLM development. We find that replacement of just 0.001% of training tokens with medical misinformation results in harmful models more likely to propagate medical errors. Furthermore, we discover that corrupted models match the performance of their corruption-free counterparts on open-source benchmarks routinely used to evaluate medical LLMs. Using biomedical knowledge graphs to screen medical LLM outputs, we propose a harm mitigation strategy that captures 91.9% of harmful content (F1 = 85.7%). Our algorithm provides a unique method to validate stochastically generated LLM outputs against hard-coded relationships in knowledge graphs. In view of current calls for improved data provenance and transparent LLM development, we hope to raise awareness of emergent risks from LLMs trained indiscriminately on web-scraped data, particularly in healthcare where misinformation can potentially compromise patient safety.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

The team heard about me and said "let's do it, but with AI"...

KIDDING.

If / when I get my hands on more information like this, would you like me to share it with y'all?

Could you learn and share how we guarantee that this never touches our vehicles? I mean besides getting rid of our Fords? I still like my Mustang and my Lightning, but if they’re ever infested with this malware, I’ll need to get rid of them.

 

[NeighborGeek]

(Checks Calendar... Nope, Not April Yet)

This seems like a terrible idea. Who asked for a Ford specific AI built into the app? Is ANYONE actually going to think 'I should ask my Ford app about that!'? They might ask questions like this of Google, or ChatGPT, but nobody is really so linked in to Ford that it would be their go to AI assistant.

 

[Jim Lewis]

Just look at the current human slop in the world. Human error in medicine kills and impairs tens of thousands of people each year in the U.S. alone. Same for drivers on the road. Take this forum as an example of the human mind.

I read years ago that the VA PHARMACY uses robots to dispense prescriptions to avoid human error.

 

[02Reaper]

The team heard about me and said "let's do it, but with AI"...

KIDDING.

If / when I get my hands on more information like this, would you like me to share it with y'all?

Probably any information they are giving to you isn't anything that's not already out in the wild or new. Your track record for following up on questions asked so far ain't too good. Maybe start by going to the threads you said you will come back to and start answering there first instead of coming in saying you will find out, never to come back and answer.

 

[Ford Motor Company]

Probably any information they are giving to you isn't anything that's not already out in the wild or new. Your track record for following up on questions asked so far ain't too good. Maybe start by going to the threads you said you will come back to and start answering there first instead of coming in saying you will find out, never to come back and answer.

Called out.

I do what I can, believe me. If I don't respond to something it's because I can't get an answer or I missed the question. I try to caveat that "if" I have information I can share, I will.

 

[02Reaper]

Called out.

I do what I can, believe me. If I don't respond to something it's because I can't get an answer or I missed the question. I try to caveat that "if" I have information I can share, I will.

Not trying to be mean man. I get it. I'm sure you try, but everyone can see that the higher ups don't give you very much information to come back to us with.

 

[Lytning]

All this hype and promises from @Ford Motor Company, who still can't even display the 12 volt SOC, which is already calculated onboard the vehicle. All they have to do is write the code to display the known information to the driver. Maybe they can use AI to write that code for them.

My first question for Ford's AI assistant: What is my truck's current 12 volt SOC? If it can't answer that question, it fails.

I understand why it's called ARTIFICIAL Intelligence.

 

[brewski]

AI can be great.
The perception here is, rather than spend resources on getting the Ford App solid, and the truck software all updated for everyone...we instead see this AI thing (another app?).
Something that may be cool and may have some use, but we want what we already have to be top notch.

 

[Lytning]

This sounds like an "oh sh_t" response from Ford senior management. They realize the AI train has left the station, and they are not on it.

Out of curiosity, has anyone on this forum been asked what they need or want Ford AI to deliver for them?

Me neither.

 

[The Weatherman]

The team heard about me and said "let's do it, but with AI"...

KIDDING.

If / when I get my hands on more information like this, would you like me to share it with y'all?

Yes, of course. And how about letting us know what Ford plans on charging for the subscription. That ought to boast the number of positive responses.

 

[SomeStupidDriver]

Can't think of anything I'd rather do less than have a conversation with my truck.

I just don't want a 1.5s delay when press the climate buttons up or down to adjust the temp. The system is so slow and laggy I can't imagine how much worse it will be trying to cram AI into something that was shipped under powered and running at 6fps.

In fact I would be surprised that it's even possible to run on these trucks, I would not surprised to find next year that this is only coming to new/future vehicles.

Edit: Okay reading this:

Seems this will never make it to our vehicles, or ANY F150 lightning since theyre discontinued, but will be shoved into our apps where it will be absolutely feckless without vehicle integration.

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

Brian @Ford Motor Company, is it possible to make some headway on key features missing in the app or on the truck?

-Route planning needs to return to the app. Did you know the trucks nav still has a section for trips planned in the app but the ability to do this was removed years ago from Ford Pass?

-Manual DCFC preconditioning is still missing from the in-car options. Because Ford doesn’t have route planning I don’t use Ford’s nav. As a result, my vehicle is not preconditioning between stops on road trips. This needs fixed as I’m certainly not alone here.

-FCSP reliability. I have a ticket open for this that Ford has not responded back to me on. I’m having repeated charging errors when temperatures drop below freezing meaning the truck isn’t able to do anything to keep the pack above freezing. Support said that using preferred charge and departure times can cause issues so I was forced to disable these incredibly useful features only to find out the problem still persists.

-Speaking of FCSP issues, what about those experiencing HIS issues after spending $10,000 for the system? Why is Ford not standing by its customers?

Ford engineered one hell of a truck, but only completed 95% of the project. These are all items that 4 model years in should have been solved.

 

[boggle]

Cuts the advertised scales and invests software development resources to this instead of the numerous features we've actually been requesting for years. Remarkably tone-deaf.

At least it knows more about the vehicles than your dealers care to.

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