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Will it make it?

Winter range commute- will it make it, winter ER?


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Yes, you can do it.

However, your situation doesn't call for an electric truck.

A cheap and efficient car is what you need.
With his ability to use almost free TOU charging at home the Tesla is perfect for him. His efficient Tesla can be charged/replenished all within the cheap charge hours. The Lightning would take 40% longer to replenish for the same miles driven when he uses the same EVSE.

If he bought a 2022 or 2023 Lightning with ER battery and upgraded his EVSE to a 100a/80a he would be able to match the current charge time with his Tesla.
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Why don’t the new models charge at 80 amps? I love being able to come in at any level and know I’ll be full before I have to leave again!
 

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Why don’t the new models charge at 80 amps? I love being able to come in at any level and know I’ll be full before I have to leave again!
The Charger is actually built into the vehicle. The Level 2 EVSE you install at your home only supplies AC voltage to the vehicle's On Board Charger.

The Dual OBC found in all Ford Lightning ER trucks prior to 2024 was an effective 80amp charger and can output 19.2kW. The Single OBC found in the SR trucks and most 2024+ Lightnings is a 48amp charger and can output 11.5kW.

For 2024 only Lightning Pro can be equipped with Dual OBC as an option for Fleet customers.
 

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plug into a 6.2 kw level 2 charger- BUT I leave work in 6 hours +/-
Unit says apx 39 kw sent.
charging at home
His question was if he could do it under these circstances. A long range Tesla would do it. Ioniq 6 or even 5, kia ev6, rivian, etc could do it. The ER lightning could do it.
My point is that a truck is not a good option for commuting efficiently for one person at those distances. A cheap 4 banger car would be better suited.
 

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I would do this in my SR but as others said, you’d want have reliable DC chargers along the route for nasty days or days the L2 charger at work is busy or broken.
 

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With his ability to use almost free TOU charging at home the Tesla is perfect for him. His efficient Tesla can be charged/replenished all within the cheap charge hours. The Lightning would take 40% longer to replenish for the same miles driven when he uses the same EVSE.

If he bought a 2022 or 2023 Lightning with ER battery and upgraded his EVSE to a 100a/80a he would be able to match the current charge time with his Tesla.
Amazing info!!
what do you think about loosing the heat pump?
 

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Amazing info!!
what do you think about loosing the heat pump?
As a Floridian, I can't answer that question with any accuracy since we rarely use the heat. .
 
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ABRP says…
Starting w 90% arriving work at 49%- 6h at 6.2 charger gets me to 78% and arriving home at 35%. Does that sound accurate? It says It adjusted for typical weather at time of year. Thoughts?
 

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Starting w 90% arriving work at 49%- 6h at 6.2 charger gets me to 78% and arriving home at 35%. Does that sound accurate? It says It adjusted for typical weather at time of year. Thoughts?
Sounds right to me. Start at 100% with a departure time/precondition and it really shouldn't be a problem.
 

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Starting w 90% arriving work at 49%- 6h at 6.2 charger gets me to 78% and arriving home at 35%. Does that sound accurate? It says It adjusted for typical weather at time of year. Thoughts?
That seems to be accurate BUT will you be able to totally recharge at home during your very inexpensive Off Peak Rate hours? You would need to replenish 55% of the battery to go from 35% to 90%. The 2024 ER battery can max charge at 48 amps on a 60 amp circuit if you have an EVSE that has the capability. 55% is about 72 kWhs of electricity.

Check my math:
Considering a 10% efficiency loss on the charger
  • At 48 amps (11.5 kWs) it would take about 7 hours
  • At 40 amps (9.6 kWs) it would take about 8.3 hours
  • at 30 amps (7.2 kWs) it would take 11.1 hours
 

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My typical Monday (127 miles from upstate to long island- mon and weds 52ish times a year)
He should be able to recharge, even if spread within TOU limits over 2 days (Mon/Tue then Wed/Thur)
 
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ABRP says…
Starting w 90% arriving work at 49%- 6h at 6.2 charger gets me to
That seems to be accurate BUT will you be able to totally recharge at home during your very inexpensive Off Peak Rate hours? You would need to replenish 55% of the battery to go from 35% to 90%. The 2024 ER battery can max charge at 48 amps on a 60 amp circuit if you have an EVSE that has the capability. 55% is about 72 kWhs of electricity.

Check my math:
Considering a 10% efficiency loss on the charger
  • At 48 amps (11.5 kWs) it would take about 7 hours
  • At 40 amps (9.6 kWs) it would take about 8.3 hours
  • at 30 amps (7.2 kWs) it would take 11.1 hours
That is good info- yeah I would be out of TOU by a few hours.
If I get a 2023 then I can amp up? But loose the heat pump. Thoughts on that
 
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Starting w 90% arriving work at 49%- 6h at 6.2 charger gets me to 78% and arriving home at 35%. Does that sound accurate? It says It adjusted for typical weather at time of year. Thoughts?
So I adjusted for 20 degree weather (both legs) and 90% start charge and it says I arrive home with 20+%

That would mean I would use 120kw of energy for 256ish miles 2.1m/kw?
The calculator is accurate on my tesla from last weeks cold snap- but 2.1m at 20 degrees seems like quite a stretch for the Lightning?

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That is good info- yeah I would be out of TOU by a few hours.
Couldn't you pause charging Monday/Tuesday and resume early Wednesday?

What are the start & stop times for TOU?
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