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Hey yall,
I have been on observer of this site for some time and I finally registered with an account.
I have taken a few trips with my Lightning and planning for them took a ton of time and research.
I am hopeful that sharing some of these trips will help others who plan to travel from the valley to one of our many beautiful destinations!
*Note: This is my first post, so let me know if you have any feedback as I am new to this*

Both of these trips were with my 2023 F150 Lightning Lariat ER
Me, my wife and our two kids
Truck fully loaded with all the necessary camping gear

For both trips we rented an RV
RV1- Coleman 17B- Roughly 3,500 lbs
RV2- Mallard M185- Roughly 4,00o lbs

*Full disclosure that the GOM is not an accurate way, as most know, to plan... or for that matter, manage your expectations, for the trip.
*I have begun to get a "feel," for the trucks percentage performance, and use that as more of a guide.

Trip one
Gilbert to Woods Canyon Lake-118 Miles-6,263 ft elevation change
89% used on the way 61% on the way back

This was our first towing trip and I took a lot of time going through the forums and watching You tube videos and what to expect. At first, I felt I had a good idea of what the performance of the truck would be, but, of course, there was a bit of range nerves and excitement!

When I set out to plan for this trip, I presumed that I would get somewhere around 1.3 KWH, so I knew there would have to be a charging stop along the way.
Simple enough, I went to the map and found the EA charger in Payson, 64 miles from my home in Gilbert.
This is a great charging spot, because you can pull right in and although you do block some of the parking lot, it isn't really in an area that affects to much.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761505135718-gf


I charged overnight to 100% and knew that I would make to it the EA station.
How much energy would I use... that's where the fun comes in..
We headed out on a May morning, 85 degrees, with 100% charge, GOM at 164 miles.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761505844269-9v


The truck quickly adjusted down and more than half way there it was reading 1.0 KWH

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761505946280-ej


Always a clenching view..

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761506114779-6d


Ultimately, we made it to the EA in Payson with 37%. This yielded an average of about 1.3 KWH, so the 83% used in the 64 miles driven. Not too bad, especially with a climb of roughly 3,763 Ft. I was quite pleased with the set up of the location, as well as, the ample places to shop, eat, or use the bathroom. I will also say that it is has been nice to pull up and have conversations with the nice people who own other EV platforms, whether it be the various Ford vehicles, Rivians, etc. With a world so divisive today, we can all agree that EV vehicles are an amazing feat of engineering and they are fun to drive!

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761506489730-h0
Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761507333428-3s


We charged for about 50 minutes, up to 90% and off we went. Just to note, I charged to 90, but didn't have to. I made this decision so that we could use the truck as a generator if need be.
From the EA station to WCL, it was another 34 miles and 1,263 climb in elevation. To be safe, I assumed I needed 70 miles worth of range and the GOM was giving me 90.. I knew I had more.
With a start at 90% we made it to WCL with 64%, 26% used.

We enjoyed our stay at WCL for the two night stay and even used the truck to run the AC in the camper, chargers, etc. I was amazed at the efficiency. We could run it for about an hour to an hour and fifteen minutes per KWH. We had plenty to spare, but I was cautious to keep reserves for the trip back down.

Coming down the hill, I had to chuckle at these KWH.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761506924894-


Coming back down, we used about 12% to the EA charger in Payson and charged up to 84%, making it back home with plenty to spare.


Trip 2
Gilbert to Pine Flat Campground Sedona- 159 miles -4,263 Ft elevation change

Now that we had the taste for a good camping trip, we had to do another. I went back on the rental website and found another great fit for our family at a comparable size. I also found a perfect location, just between Sedona and Flagstaff, that I was excited to explore.

This time we headed from Gilbert to our first stop, in Anthem, and I had initially planned on going to the charger at Circle K. It was located close to the highway and it had space for a pull in.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761507817426-fm

Unfortunately, this charger wouldn't engage, which was quite frustrating...no worries, though! I had a back up plan, which was the EA charger at the Walmart, close by. I had hoped to avoid this, as space is tight in the parking lot, but we were in luck! They were doing construction and the place was all but to our own.
Home -Anthem 42% used, 65 miles - 1.5 KWH

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761507973090-2


From here we charged up to 90%. I was very unsure of how far we could make it. The closest EA charger from here was in Sedona, 87 miles away. I had never towed that far before and I had hoped there were other options along the way, but after doing extensive research, there weren't. I had a back up plan though. Although, there was only one confirmed non Rivian charge, the Collective, Sedona, AZ, Rivian charger, it was only 77 miles away. It was also along the travel plath to the EA charger, so on we went!
The GOM was way off and was predicting only about 75 miles of range.
I also had to stop of Distant Drums, the last spot before Sedona, to fill up the 36 gallon fresh water tank.
In my head I assumed that even if we dropped to 1.1 KWH, we would make it.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761508519633-t

As we drove, the GOM adjusted and we ended up much better than we expected. My wife guessed that we would use 50% to the Rivian charger and she was about dead on!
Fun times again!

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761508605285-5j

The Rivian charger at The Collective works! There is also a cafe and a number of shops. It was great to plug in and go grab a bite to eat.
I actually ran into another Lightning owner who lives less than a mile from me haha!
We arrived with 39% and charged up to 90%. By the time we sat down and ordered our food, the charging was complete. I pulled around and there was a great place to park in the back.
Charging is so much faster than people think and if you plan ahead, you can utilize the time to knock out other tasks, shop, eat or use the bathroom.
This spot was also set up to where you could pull in at an angle and not block to much traffic.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761508664099-f3


We made our second leg of the trip from here, up through the beautiful town of Sedona, to the equally beautiful campground. it was another 20 miles to the campground and we used about 28%. Leaving us with 62%. We again used this for the AC and charging, but this camper had propane heaters and a fridge that ran off propane, so we were good to go.
We had a lot of fun during this trip as well. We went up to Flagstaff and enjoyed the Lowell Observatory, Charging at the EA in Flag, unhooked, of course.
We also explored the West Fork trail, amazing views!
We left the campground with about 74% and made it back to the Rivian charger with about 70%. Charging up to 80%, we headed down to Anthem, where we would drop off the trailer to the owners.

Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761509736742-jj
Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761509779330-


Ford F-150 Lightning AZ Camping and Towing Experience- Gilbert to Sedona 1761509763743-vo


I don't have all of the details from here, but we made it back home with about 7%.
Ultimately, I hope this info give some reassurance to others, or perhaps the courage to put this truck to the test. It surely can tow and it does so, very well. If you can plan your routes and use charging times efficiently, it is a great adventure. I hope to take any more trips and get even more data. If you have any specific questions, please feel free to DM me.

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Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your experiences in this trip report!!
 
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Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your experiences in this trip report!!
Thank you and happy to be here!
Nice writeup. Interesting seeing you at 53% and it's orange with 50 miles to go.
Yes, the truck loves to under promise and over deliver lol. You know you will make it, but it is still a little unsettling at first.
 

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Very Good. Just wondering if you have the max trailer tow package and if it took much adjusting and also about how many miles would you expect to get on 70% or 80% assuming you weren't on the downhill leg? Thanks

Also wondering what the per kwh charge is out there? in Arizona I just made a trip to San Antonio, no trailer, using a Tesla adapter, paid the one month membership fee of 12.99, and the typical Tesla Supercharger charge fee came out to .33 per kwh. The one non Tesla charger I stopped at was .58 per kwh. My per mile cost for the roundtrip driving the interstate 75 to 80 mph most of the way came out to just under .21 per mile which was about double what driving the Subaru would have been and triple what my Prius would have got. The Tesla drivers were telling me they paid around .18 during the day peak times and much less at night.
 

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Bc1, yes I do have the max tow package. It’s actually a great addition even when not towing. Keeps the battery cool in the mild 110 plus summers lol.
With 70-80% I’d say it could do around 110-120 miles, but there are too many variables.. speed, trailer weight, temp, elevation etc. All out, I’d bet it could get around 140. My trip to Sedona was 159 miles and I believe I used around 110%.
Yes the cost is a big factor. About .43 for EA and the Rivian.. ouch, was about .75.
I don’t use it for the savings in towing cost. Plus, using the truck as a generator is pretty great!
I use my truck as a daily driver though. I let it run all day and travel around the southeast valley. Very efficient in that respect vs my previous Ecoboost.
 

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Welcome to the forum! Nice trip report.

If you don't have a NACS (Tesla) to CCS-1 adapter, I highly that you get one. Being able to use the Tesla SuperChargers dramatically increases your charging options. And almost universally Tesla is less expensive than E.A. and WAY less expensive than Rivian. Also if you don't know it, both Tesla and E.A. offer monthly subscriptions that give you a substantially lower price. With either one it only takes one or two charge sessions to pay for the membership. With either one, you can buy the subscription and pay for a month, and immediately cancel it (so you don't forget), and still get the discount for the month. I have paid for an E.A. membership only once and charged only once, but that saved me $4.68 over the cost of the subscription. A few weeks ago, E.A. sent me an E-Mail offering a one month free, and since I had a trip where I might use it, I took them up on the free offer. For Tesla, I have had a membership for about 2/3 of the months since I bought my Lightning. It has paid for itself (even with a couple months where I did not get around to cancelling it and did not use it).
 
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Thanks K6CCC!
I do have the adapter and have used Tesla Chargers. Unfortunately the Tesla chargers in Payson and the one at Oak Creek, don’t work for us.
Thanks for those tips though. I will give them a shot.
I hardly ever charge in public unless I travel, but these could come in handy.
Thank you!
 

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Welcome to the forum! Nice trip report.

If you don't have a NACS (Tesla) to CCS-1 adapter, I highly that you get one. Being able to use the Tesla SuperChargers dramatically increases your charging options. And almost universally Tesla is less expensive than E.A. and WAY less expensive than Rivian. Also if you don't know it, both Tesla and E.A. offer monthly subscriptions that give you a substantially lower price. With either one it only takes one or two charge sessions to pay for the membership. With either one, you can buy the subscription and pay for a month, and immediately cancel it (so you don't forget), and still get the discount for the month. I have paid for an E.A. membership only once and charged only once, but that saved me $4.68 over the cost of the subscription. A few weeks ago, E.A. sent me an E-Mail offering a one month free, and since I had a trip where I might use it, I took them up on the free offer. For Tesla, I have had a membership for about 2/3 of the months since I bought my Lightning. It has paid for itself (even with a couple months where I did not get around to cancelling it and did not use it).
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Hey yall,
I have been on observer of this site for some time and I finally registered with an account.
I have taken a few trips with my Lightning and planning for them took a ton of time and research.
I am hopeful that sharing some of these trips will help others who plan to travel from the valley to one of our many beautiful destinations!
*Note: This is my first post, so let me know if you have any feedback as I am new to this*

Both of these trips were with my 2023 F150 Lightning Lariat ER
Me, my wife and our two kids
Truck fully loaded with all the necessary camping gear

For both trips we rented an RV
RV1- Coleman 17B- Roughly 3,500 lbs
RV2- Mallard M185- Roughly 4,00o lbs

*Full disclosure that the GOM is not an accurate way, as most know, to plan... or for that matter, manage your expectations, for the trip.
*I have begun to get a "feel," for the trucks percentage performance, and use that as more of a guide.

Trip one
Gilbert to Woods Canyon Lake-118 Miles-6,263 ft elevation change
89% used on the way 61% on the way back

This was our first towing trip and I took a lot of time going through the forums and watching You tube videos and what to expect. At first, I felt I had a good idea of what the performance of the truck would be, but, of course, there was a bit of range nerves and excitement!

When I set out to plan for this trip, I presumed that I would get somewhere around 1.3 KWH, so I knew there would have to be a charging stop along the way.
Simple enough, I went to the map and found the EA charger in Payson, 64 miles from my home in Gilbert.
This is a great charging spot, because you can pull right in and although you do block some of the parking lot, it isn't really in an area that affects to much.

1761505135718-gf.webp


I charged overnight to 100% and knew that I would make to it the EA station.
How much energy would I use... that's where the fun comes in..
We headed out on a May morning, 85 degrees, with 100% charge, GOM at 164 miles.

1761505844269-9v.webp


The truck quickly adjusted down and more than half way there it was reading 1.0 KWH

1761505946280-ej.webp


Always a clenching view..

1761506114779-6d.webp


Ultimately, we made it to the EA in Payson with 37%. This yielded an average of about 1.3 KWH, so the 83% used in the 64 miles driven. Not too bad, especially with a climb of roughly 3,763 Ft. I was quite pleased with the set up of the location, as well as, the ample places to shop, eat, or use the bathroom. I will also say that it is has been nice to pull up and have conversations with the nice people who own other EV platforms, whether it be the various Ford vehicles, Rivians, etc. With a world so divisive today, we can all agree that EV vehicles are an amazing feat of engineering and they are fun to drive!

1761506489730-h0.webp
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We charged for about 50 minutes, up to 90% and off we went. Just to note, I charged to 90, but didn't have to. I made this decision so that we could use the truck as a generator if need be.
From the EA station to WCL, it was another 34 miles and 1,263 climb in elevation. To be safe, I assumed I needed 70 miles worth of range and the GOM was giving me 90.. I knew I had more.
With a start at 90% we made it to WCL with 64%, 26% used.

We enjoyed our stay at WCL for the two night stay and even used the truck to run the AC in the camper, chargers, etc. I was amazed at the efficiency. We could run it for about an hour to an hour and fifteen minutes per KWH. We had plenty to spare, but I was cautious to keep reserves for the trip back down.

Coming down the hill, I had to chuckle at these KWH.

1761506924894-bp.webp


Coming back down, we used about 12% to the EA charger in Payson and charged up to 84%, making it back home with plenty to spare.


Trip 2
Gilbert to Pine Flat Campground Sedona- 159 miles -4,263 Ft elevation change

Now that we had the taste for a good camping trip, we had to do another. I went back on the rental website and found another great fit for our family at a comparable size. I also found a perfect location, just between Sedona and Flagstaff, that I was excited to explore.

This time we headed from Gilbert to our first stop, in Anthem, and I had initially planned on going to the charger at Circle K. It was located close to the highway and it had space for a pull in.

1761507817426-fm.webp

Unfortunately, this charger wouldn't engage, which was quite frustrating...no worries, though! I had a back up plan, which was the EA charger at the Walmart, close by. I had hoped to avoid this, as space is tight in the parking lot, but we were in luck! They were doing construction and the place was all but to our own.
Home -Anthem 42% used, 65 miles - 1.5 KWH

1761507973090-2b.webp


From here we charged up to 90%. I was very unsure of how far we could make it. The closest EA charger from here was in Sedona, 87 miles away. I had never towed that far before and I had hoped there were other options along the way, but after doing extensive research, there weren't. I had a back up plan though. Although, there was only one confirmed non Rivian charge, the Collective, Sedona, AZ, Rivian charger, it was only 77 miles away. It was also along the travel plath to the EA charger, so on we went!
The GOM was way off and was predicting only about 75 miles of range.
I also had to stop of Distant Drums, the last spot before Sedona, to fill up the 36 gallon fresh water tank.
In my head I assumed that even if we dropped to 1.1 KWH, we would make it.

1761508519633-te.webp

As we drove, the GOM adjusted and we ended up much better than we expected. My wife guessed that we would use 50% to the Rivian charger and she was about dead on!
Fun times again!

1761508605285-5j.webp

The Rivian charger at The Collective works! There is also a cafe and a number of shops. It was great to plug in and go grab a bite to eat.
I actually ran into another Lightning owner who lives less than a mile from me haha!
We arrived with 39% and charged up to 90%. By the time we sat down and ordered our food, the charging was complete. I pulled around and there was a great place to park in the back.
Charging is so much faster than people think and if you plan ahead, you can utilize the time to knock out other tasks, shop, eat or use the bathroom.
This spot was also set up to where you could pull in at an angle and not block to much traffic.

1761508664099-f3.webp


We made our second leg of the trip from here, up through the beautiful town of Sedona, to the equally beautiful campground. it was another 20 miles to the campground and we used about 28%. Leaving us with 62%. We again used this for the AC and charging, but this camper had propane heaters and a fridge that ran off propane, so we were good to go.
We had a lot of fun during this trip as well. We went up to Flagstaff and enjoyed the Lowell Observatory, Charging at the EA in Flag, unhooked, of course.
We also explored the West Fork trail, amazing views!
We left the campground with about 74% and made it back to the Rivian charger with about 70%. Charging up to 80%, we headed down to Anthem, where we would drop off the trailer to the owners.

1761509736742-jj.webp
1761509779330-wb.webp


1761509763743-vo.webp


I don't have all of the details from here, but we made it back home with about 7%.
Ultimately, I hope this info give some reassurance to others, or perhaps the courage to put this truck to the test. It surely can tow and it does so, very well. If you can plan your routes and use charging times efficiently, it is a great adventure. I hope to take any more trips and get even more data. If you have any specific questions, please feel free to DM me.

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Very nice write up. Welcome to the forum. (I haven't been here long myself)
About what speed did you travel towing?
My Lightning does not have max tow and I have only pulled a 20 Ft tilt bed trailer with it a few times, which it does very well. Did you have to use a weight distribution hitch?
Thanks for the nice write-up and sharing your experiences.
 

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Good planniong and a well-written travel post.

The OP understood by research, and now by self-experience that range on EVs is greatly affected by: chosen speed, elevation climbs, and of course ambient air temperature. In certain seasons and regions, also by headwinds.

Once we understand these variables and their interplay, long distance EV travel ceases to be a mystery.

Moreover, when camping in semi-remote areas there are far more electricity sources than it might appear at 1st glance because electricity is pretty much present in almost every building out there.

Between our two EVs and on many long trips we've charged on occasion off a welder's 240V receptacle, an HVAC 240V receptacle, a kitchen range 240V receptacle, off many many many NEMA 14-50 240V receptacles and off one or two other 240V receptacle types I can't recall right now. The key is to have adapter plugs in the truck, for "just in case". Even one such use fully pays for that adapter's price. I have nine in my Adapter GO Box and have used six so far in our travels.

We are preparing for yet another Great Adventure with our teardrop camper and the Lightning - Virginia to Newfoundland Canada in December - January (yeah, there actually is a very specific reason to go - it's the 40th year anniversary of a really bad December 1985 mass casualty event there). THAT will I'm sure be one edgy Great Adventure, but hey... we've done others and we're still here and enjoying this wonderful truck.
 
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Very nice write up. Welcome to the forum. (I haven't been here long myself)
About what speed did you travel towing?
My Lightning does not have max tow and I have only pulled a 20 Ft tilt bed trailer with it a few times, which it does very well. Did you have to use a weight distribution hitch?
Thanks for the nice write-up and sharing your experiences.
Thank you and welcome as well!
I was pretty conservative and drove around 55-60 MPH, sometimes up to 65. It is a very hilly trip at times, I don’t believe it would have made a huge difference staying at 60. Going down the hills and reducing the amount of trailer brake helps re gen as well. Overall, I still would have made it easily going 65
 

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Good planniong and a well-written travel post.

The OP understood by research, and now by self-experience that range on EVs is greatly affected by: chosen speed, elevation climbs, and of course ambient air temperature. In certain seasons and regions, also by headwinds.

Once we understand these variables and their interplay, long distance EV travel ceases to be a mystery.

Moreover, when camping in semi-remote areas there are far more electricity sources than it might appear at 1st glance because electricity is pretty much present in almost every building out there.

Between our two EVs and on many long trips we've charged on occasion off a welder's 240V receptacle, an HVAC 240V receptacle, a kitchen range 240V receptacle, off many many many NEMA 14-50 240V receptacles and off one or two other 240V receptacle types I can't recall right now. The key is to have adapter plugs in the truck, for "just in case". Even one such use fully pays for that adapter's price. I have nine in my Adapter GO Box and have used six so far in our travels.

We are preparing for yet another Great Adventure with our teardrop camper and the Lightning - Virginia to Newfoundland Canada in December - January (yeah, there actually is a very specific reason to go - it's the 40th year anniversary of a really bad December 1985 mass casualty event there). THAT will I'm sure be one edgy Great Adventure, but hey... we've done others and we're still here and enjoying this wonderful truck.
@21st Century Truck Which adapters do you have in the Go Box? Thanks
 

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Payson’s EA station is a great hidden gem charging spot. It’s never been busy when I’ve used it when I want to avoid the chaos of the 17 going north from Tucson/Phoenix up to Flagstaff and beyond.
 

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@21st Century Truck Which adapters do you have in the Go Box? Thanks
Here's the thread with the Go Box adapter list, from my Mach E Forum page:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/my-long-range-trip-non-dcfc-charging-gobox.31631/

Now of course I also have the Tesla Supercharger adapter as well... thank You Ford!

I also have an old, circa 2012 modified variable amperage AC charging EVSE, made by now-gone outfit called EVSEUpgrade which had made its business case by modifying the Nissan (Panasonic) well-made EVSE from exclusively 120V to an auto-adjusting 240V / 120V, user-selectable amperage EVSE with a universal AC connector.. This max-20 amp at 240V EVSE is wonderful because, unlike units from pretty much every EV car maker out there :facepalm:, it has a universal NEMA connector on its AC end, so it's easy to switch out adapters for any receptacle out there. You can still find used EVSEUpgrade units out there occasionally on EBay.

I do also carry my Ford OEM 32-amp EVSE, and many of these adapters can daisy-chain onto its NEMA 14-50 whip. Depending on the 240V outlet, I use one or the other EVSE, as 32 amps = better than 20 amps. Eventually of course the mediocre Ford EVSE will crap out and I'll use the EVSEUpgrade one exclusively afterwards.

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