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The Fox News comment is irrelevant but important for you I guess.
Most Media outlets find the more Salacious or Controversial they can pose a story or report, the more eyes and ears and mouthes will be talking about it so it's in their business interest to get those of us frustrated, disappointed, and angry even.
I agree that nearly all mass media looks for controversy or divisiveness to attract viewers. In my opinion this divisiveness is tearing the nation apart in many ways (at least on televison).

The fox news reference was directed towards this video specifically though and not political leanings. Also, I make the difference here because it feels like network news is less commentary based than cable news channels.

 

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I would love to be apart and comment.
When I put my reservation in on May 19, 2021 while deployed to Baghdad, the Detroit press ran a story on some of us. Now, being pushed to 2023 and potentially missing the tax credit, along with the price increase and the features being removed, this is constantly on my mind.
 

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But the price was a financial stretch when they were first published, then the tax credit became a question mark, then prices went up, while investments went down and interest rates went up.
the above could more-or-less apply to any major asset class these days
 

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I think anyone who agrees to be mentioned by name on a story like this, should be prepared for ridicule from the public. In my case, I was willing to buy a $78,000 truck, with a $7,500 rebate, plus tax. Now that it's a $90,000 truck with no rebate, I'm not going to.

Public perspective - "So, Mr. Richie Rich, you can afford to spend nearly $80,000 on a truck that WE THE PEOPLE help you pay for with a tax credit, but when we don't BAIL YOU OUT, you won't pay $90,000?" :p :p :p :p :p
 

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I think anyone who agrees to be mentioned by name on a story like this, should be prepared for ridicule from the public. In my case, I was willing to buy a $78,000 truck, with a $7,500 rebate, plus tax. Now that it's a $90,000 truck with no rebate, I'm not going to.

Public perspective - "So, Mr. Richie Rich, you can afford to spend nearly $80,000 on a truck that WE THE PEOPLE help you pay for with a tax credit, but when we don't BAIL YOU OUT, you won't pay $90,000?" :p :p :p :p :p
Pretty much, yeah.
 

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I bought an E Transit back in June because I was spending between $1K and $1,200 a month on gas in my ICE Transit 250 for my business. The fuel cost was eating into my profits. The van cost me $20K more than the ICE model I traded in but it was worth the difference. I traded my ICE F150 Lariat for a Lightning and paid a lot more over MSRP than I was anticipating just to get one this year. Losing the $7,500 tax credit and paying $8,500 more for a 23 model with less features just didn’t make sense.
 

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I do not understand one thing. People have been paying this kind of money for tahoes, sequoias, expeditions and even f-150. Now all of the sudden it becomes a lot of money because it is an EV.

If you have a 22 Lightning, you have one in less than 8000 vehicles of the first Truck EV ever
made by ford….

This Truck is already a collectible item! Aside from that that, this is the best vehicle I ever owned.
 

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I do not understand one thing. People have been paying this kind of money for tahoes, sequoias, expeditions and even f-150. Now all of the sudden it becomes a lot of money because it is an EV.

If you have a 22 Lightning, you have one in less than 8000 vehicles of the first Truck EV ever
made by ford….

This Truck is already a collectible item! Aside from that that, this is the best vehicle I ever owned.
Yes, this is way more money than I ever thought that I would pay for a vehicle, but nobody forced me to do it. This is the first vehicle that I was willing to spend this kind of money to have. Would I have preferred an Extended Range Pro trim level? Absolutely, but in the end I chose to drop $80k on the vehicle that was available.
I don’t regret it. This is a full size truck (that would cost at least $50k), it is a super efficient everyday driver and commuter (that would cost $20-$30k). It is the equivalent of 10 Tesla Power Walls (that would cost $70k). $80k is a lot of money for a vehicle, but in my opinion this one is worth it. I could’ve bought all this utility separately before, but the cost was too much. When Ford put it all into one package and set a price that I found worth it, I bought it. That is capitalism, right? Not sure if that is sensational or news. Now if Ford or the government or anyone else were forcing people to buy these vehicles, that would be worthy of the news.
 

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I do not understand one thing. People have been paying this kind of money for tahoes, sequoias, expeditions and even f-150. Now all of the sudden it becomes a lot of money because it is an EV.

If you have a 22 Lightning, you have one in less than 8000 vehicles of the first Truck EV ever
made by ford….

This Truck is already a collectible item! Aside from that that, this is the best vehicle I ever owned.
That, and $80,000, will get you one.

If you think that down the road having a year 1 Lightning will command a premium, you're mistaken. Maybe the 1st produce, but otherwise - no.
 

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That, and $80,000, will get you one.

If you think that down the road having a year 1 Lightning will command a premium, you're mistaken. Maybe the 1st produce, but otherwise - no.
Think about 30 years from now, when we have the next asset bubble :)

But to me it is worth more than 80k because I cannot replace it. The 23s do not even have all the options I have and they are 8k more.

I would have never entertained the idea of dropping this kind of money for a vehicle, but I am very happy with the whole package. Regardless of what it be worth in 2-3 years.
 

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Think about 30 years from now, when we have the next asset bubble :)

But to me it is worth more than 80k because I cannot replace it. The 23s do not even have all the options I have and they are 8k more.

I would have never entertained the idea of dropping this kind of money for a vehicle, but I am very happy with the whole package. Regardless of what it be worth in 2-3 years.
Can't argue with your conclusion. We enjoy our 2022 Mach-E.
 

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When Ford put it all into one package and set a price that I found worth it, I bought it. That is capitalism, right?
This comment is worth repeating. Capitalism begins with someone spending money and taking risk to offer a product. If no one likes the product, the risk taker loses his shirt.

I would not have bought my 2022 without the rebate, which I see as a way to claw back some of the taxes I have paid. Definitely not the more expensive 2023. I would not qualify for a rebate.
 

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I have media experience (ESPN commercials for the X-Games, live AM radio programs, live news coverage of an auto show) and I am very comfortable on camera (live or not). I am in social videos regularly for work (Harbor Freight Tools), and occasionally on my own Youtube.

I would be open to a potential interview. I am a Lightning owner.
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