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I live in Iowa. last night we had the super cold freeze come through. Truck went on the charger at midnight (outside) and when I left for work at 8:00, it was only 74% charged. Yes, it was -10 degrees. I was at 30%.

I'm just saying had I needed to commute a longer distance, this would of sucked. The truck tells me that its cold outside and I should plug it in. Why didn't it fully charge?
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How many kW is your EVSE offering the truck?

I'm also noticing the amount of kWh shown in CarScanner for the same display SOC takes a nosedive in the cold. 100% in the summer is high 120's, now that it's been cooler (but nowhere near as cold as it should be here) 100% is maybe 116kWh at most.
 
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How many kW is your EVSE offering the truck?

I'm also noticing the amount of kWh shown in CarScanner for the same display SOC takes a nosedive in the cold. 100% in the summer is high 120's, now that it's been cooler (but nowhere near as cold as it should be here) 100% is maybe 116kWh at most.
I have FORD Pro installed on a 100 amp circuit that gives 80 amps.
 

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I live in Iowa. last night we had the super cold freeze come through. Truck went on the charger at midnight (outside) and when I left for work at 8:00, it was only 74% charged. Yes, it was -10 degrees. I was at 30%.

I'm just saying had I needed to commute a longer distance, this would of sucked. The truck tells me that its cold outside and I should plug it in. Why didn't it fully charge?
Level 1 (120 volt) or level 2 (240 volt) EVSE?

Level 1 doesn't have enough power to heat a large battery pack and provide power to charge.

If your level 2 is set to a very low amperage, you could end up the same as level 1 with a very slow charge rate.
 
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Level 1 (120 volt) or level 2 (240 volt) EVSE?

Level 1 doesn't have enough power to heat a large battery pack and provide power to charge.

If your level 2 is set to a very low amperage, you could end up the same as level 1 with a very slow charge rate.
Level 2 set to 80 amps.
 

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I live in Iowa. last night we had the super cold freeze come through. Truck went on the charger at midnight (outside) and when I left for work at 8:00, it was only 74% charged. Yes, it was -10 degrees. I was at 30%.

I'm just saying had I needed to commute a longer distance, this would of sucked. The truck tells me that its cold outside and I should plug it in. Why didn't it fully charge?
8 hours of charging. ER battery of 131kWh. 70% is 92kW. 8 hours of charging would have to be at least 11.46kW rate of charging. 48amp charger would be giving 10.5 or so, AND some of that energy was used to warm the battery. What charger do you use? If it was the Ford Mobile Charger, that's 30amps, about 6.5kW. 8 x 6.5= 52kWh. 74 - 30% = 44% x 131 = 57.6kWh. That's it right there I think...

How many kW is your EVSE offering the truck?

I'm also noticing the amount of kWh shown in CarScanner for the same display SOC takes a nosedive in the cold. 100% in the summer is high 120's, now that it's been cooler (but nowhere near as cold as it should be here) 100% is maybe 116kWh at most.
That is correct. When my truck's battery was at 15.8F last January, it showed 96kW at 90%, roughly 107 at 100% equivalent. As you drive and the battery warms, the energy goes up, but it also goes down due to driving. With the battery at 93F after DC fast charging to 84%, I had 111kWh, which works out to 132kWh...
 
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Do you have any way to verify that the Ford Pro charger is offering the full 80 amps? Other posts about the Ford charger make it sound unreliable at best.
No, unless they is some way to verify via app or on screen. It histically charges really quick when its just regular cold.
 

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I have FORD Pro installed on a 100 amp circuit that gives 80 amps.
But your 24 Flash only has a 48 amp battery charger, so that's the best you will get. Still seems kinda low - average of 7.7 KW/H into the battery. The 48 amp charger should have netted about 10 KW charge rate. However you may have lost some due to needing to warm the battery.
 

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Level 2 set to 80 amps.
So what happened last night was that your charger didn't deliver 48amps consistently, OR the truck had an issue. You can look at the charging history to see how many kWh it delivered, and when it was charging you could have seen the delivery rate.

Check it for trouble lights before plugging in. A yellow light indicates it is operating at reduced power. Turn off breaker for 30 seconds, turn back on, and see if the light turns blue.
 
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8 hours of charging. ER battery of 131kWh. 70% is 92kW. 8 hours of charging would have to be at least 11.46kW rate of charging. 48amp charger would be giving 10.5 or so, AND some of that energy was used to warm the battery. What charger do you use? If it was the Ford Mobile Charger, that's 30amps, about 6.5kW. 8 x 6.5= 52kWh. 74 - 30% = 44% x 131 = 57.6kWh. That's it right there I think...



That is correct. When my truck's battery was at 15.8F last January, it showed 96kW at 90%, roughly 107 at 100% equivalent. As you drive and the battery warms, the energy goes up, but it also goes down due to driving. With the battery at 93F after DC fast charging to 84%, I had 111kWh, which works out to 132kWh...
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At several nights well below 0 with my Ford charger set at 48 amps, it charged to 80% just fine.
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