My Lightning burned to the ground

[Jim Lewis]

It's likely the member deleted his/her account due to the sensitivity of what has happened and possible claims of fault flying about.

In other words, the discussion by others that the OP might have known there was a problem with his Ohmmu battery well beforehand, but kept using it, might be an excuse for the companies involved to deny culpability and shift blame and responsibility to the OP.

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[flyct]

I don't blame the OP for deleting his account. He had a significant emotional event and some here pointed to blame him for some reason.

Posting on the internet can be cruel especially recently with the political environment. As a Tesla owner I've experienced the personal cruel comments on a diesel Truck Forum.

I hope he buys another Lightning and come back. Possibly under a different forum name.

 

[RocketGhost]

I've received word from a trusted source that the truck fire was a real event.

It's likely the member deleted his/her account due to the sensitivity of what has happened and possible claims of fault flying about.

As a lawyer I would have done the same thing. When I read that he had the Ohmmu battery I thought to myself that maybe it's not a good idea to post about the situation publicly. There's a nonzero chance insurance will deny the claim due to the owner making an unapproved and unsafe (in their opinion) modification to the vehicle. There's evidence here of one of those batteries catching fire. If there's evidence that OP was aware of that (say, if he commented on that post) it would really hurt his case. It's best OP lays low and keeps his mouth shut.

We don't know if the battery was the cause of this fire. But I strongly recommend that people stay away from the Ohmmu battery.

 

[mr.Magoo]

There's evidence here of one of those batteries catching fire.

We don't know if the battery was the cause of this fire. But I strongly recommend that people stay away from the Ohmmu battery.

Just to be fair, the one that caught fire was their Lithium ( LiFePO4 ) version and I do have a vague recollection that OP had the Sodium (Sodium NA+) version. So yes, same manufacturer, but not the same type of battery / chemistry. Maybe someone have better memory than me and can confirm or correct ?

 

[Bestword57]

Here's some data I pulled off the web regarding the percentage of fires per type of vehicle. EVs get more coverage in the news because the fires are harder to put out.

From the Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and international studies (2024–2026)
Vehicle Type/Fires per 100,000 SoldEstimated Fire Percentage

Electric (BEV)~250 Vehicles or .025%

Internal Combustion (ICE)~1,530 Vehicles or 1.53%

Hybrid (PHEV/HEV)~3,475 Vehicles or 3.48%

I feel a lot better about my Electric Horse after reading these statistics.

 

[mr.Magoo]

I feel a lot better about my Electric Horse after reading these statistics.

Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics

Statistically there's 0% vehicle fires in my driveway, but statistically that means theres a greater chance of it happening than there would have been had there already been one.
But I'm not worried because statistically things happen more often to those who worry.

 

[Maxx]

Here's some data I pulled off the web regarding percentage of fires per type of vehicle. EVs get more coverage in the news because the fires are harder to put out.

Vehicle TypeFires per 100,000 SoldEstimated Fire Percentage

Electric (BEV)~250 Vehicles or .025%

Internal Combustion (ICE)~1,530 Vehicles or 1.53%

Hybrid (PHEV/HEV)~3,475 Vehicles or 3.48%

I feel a lot better about my Electric Horse after reading these statistics.

Numbers don't always tell the full story. There is a good chance out of a 100,000 EVs a higher percentage is newer since each year more is sold than last. 100,000 ICE vehicle in this stats are more likely have a higher mix of older ICE. If the age of the vehicle increases the fire risk, these numbers can be misleading. If they have corrected for the age and compare only cars less than 3 years old for example, the numbers would be a little more trustworthy.

 

[Mal106]

To continue with the above perversion of statistics and probabilities, I'll bet there is a near 0 chance of the OP's truck catching fire again. Sorta like Garp's house being hit by a second plane.

Seriously it's surprising the fear of an EV fire when ICE vehicles are far more likely to burn.

Apoligies to Maxx, i certainly didn't mean your post. The stats could be normalized for age at the least.

 

[Maxx]

Apoligies to Maxx, i certainly didn't mean your post. The stats could be normalized for age at the least.

The only reason I posted that is that @mr.Magoo said fires happen to those that worry the most so I thought if I can make everyone else worry more, I can reduce the chance of my truck catching on fire

 

[Mal106]

Probability run amuck.

 

[mr.Magoo]

The only reason I posted that is that @mr.Magoo said

Hey, I didn't say s-t ! It's all statistics !

 

[Bestword57]

Numbers don't always tell the full story. There is a good chance out of a 100,000 EVs a higher percentage is newer since each year more is sold than last. 100,000 ICE vehicle in this stats are more likely have a higher mix of older ICE. If the age of the vehicle increases the fire risk, these numbers can be misleading. If they have corrected for the age and compare only cars less than 3 years old for example, the numbers would be a little more trustworthy.

From the Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and international studies (2024–2026)

 

[Maxx]

From the Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and international studies (2024–2026)

Those studies normalize by miles traveled but not by age. A study in 22 shows correlation with age (pg 7-8). I assume most of the vehicles in study were ICE but if the same holds true for BEV, we should see our % fire go up as we have more older BEVs on the road. That probably would drop back down at some point as safer battery tech get implemented in BEVs.


From the report:
”Approximately three-quarters of the highway vehicle fires reported in the involved vehicles with model years of 2011 or earlier (cars 10–11 years old).”



https://content.nfpa.org/-/media/Pr...ires.pdf?rev=928a1755d83249dfb5a951905ee7e336

 

[Bestword57]

Well, they have been making Nissan Leafs since 2010.

 

[Maxx]

Well, they have been making Nissan Leafs since 2010.

The point is not if they exist on the road. Proportion of 2010 EVs on the road to total EVs on the road vs proportion of 2010 ICE vehicles on the road to total ICE is in question.

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