Comma AI self driver assistant

[campalex24]

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[CerebralPrimate]

Because I have never had any sort of full self drive anything, I became curious about this. My Lighting came to me at exactly 3 years and 1 month, so BC wasn't something I could experiment with. That said, it would be a big mental shift for me to trust either the Ford BC or a Comma.

Like many, I watched Branden's video today and it got me curious. When I first got my Lighting, I tried to extend the BC for free (a month ago) when I got the truck, but no dice... I shrugged it off as no big deal because I had so many other things to figure out at the time. And again, didn't trust it anyway. But after Branden's video, I was more curious about it.

I did some looking around, first wondering just how many people actually pay for Ford BC. To me, if it's that great, then most people would pay to keep it, right? Even AI says there's no good data anywhere on this, so it said it's best guess was based on the Ford target of a 20% take rate after the initial free trial. I personally don't see 20% of people opting in for that monthly or yearly fee. I could see maybe 5%. Max of 10%. Sales goals are always set way higher than real expectations behind closed doors.

Then I looked into the Comma, which a lot of users reported satisfaction with, and I'd guess most of those users had to pay the $1K up front for it to even know if they liked it. Might be a few sponsored videos around, but I'm guessing many are just honest user reviews. But still, a thousand bucks is a lot to shell out for something that so few people want bad enough to actually pay for the privileged of using it.

Still, at first I thought "well, seems the after market is better priced and has less harsh reviews", but then I thought of my original question and applied it to myself. Would I be willing to pay, either $500/yr for BC, or $1K for permanent use of a Comma 3X? Truthfully, my answer is no to both. I am sure both are far better than adaptive cruise, but does that neat functionality really justify the cost in my life? Apparently not.

I am guessing within this thread most will feel different. As such, can anyone help me understand why the $1K expense is truly warranted?

 

[Ajzride]

I am guessing within this thread most will feel different. As such, can anyone help me understand why the $1K expense is truly warranted?

A lot of it depends on how much you drive and where you drive. I do almost 35,000 miles per year on the interstate. I couldn’t live without it.

where are you located? we might have someone close you could test drive with.

 

[CerebralPrimate]

Tesla's up front take rate on FSD (which is arguably far ahead of anyone else's system as they've been working on it the hardest) is 15%.

That's why I figure the competitor's native systems (Blue Cruise, Super Cruise, etc), which are inferior would see a far smaller percent than that.

 

[CerebralPrimate]

A lot of it depends on how much you drive and where you drive. I do almost 35,000 miles per year on the interstate. I couldn’t live without it.

where are you located? we might have someone close you could test drive with.

I drive 1K miles per month. Sometimes less.

I am in north florida, but make frequent trips to central florida for both work and to help my elderly parents out with various things they need (mostly medical). I do 100 miles each way three weeks p/m, but then stick pretty close to home aside from that, so 1K may be a high estimate. But I definitely do those road trips 3X p/m.

 

[branden]

I personally cannot imagine doing the 20k+/year I do in a vehicle without solid ADAS. Once you're used to it (I first got used to it on my former 2015 Tesla Model S with AP1), it's hard to go back. When I first bought my Lightning, it had a front camera fault and had to drive ~300 miles home without even cruise control and it was pretty miserable IMO but to each their own.

Worth noting that Comma does not do media / influencer review units so all units have been purchased (including myself), though someone could buy and return within 30 days if they really wanted to.

 

[Ajzride]

I drive 1K miles per month. Sometimes less.

I am in north florida, but make frequent trips to central florida for both work and to help my elderly parents out with various things they need (mostly medical). I do 100 miles each way three weeks p/m, but then stick pretty close to home aside from that, so 1K may be a high estimate. But I definitely do those road trips 3X p/m.

Jacksonville area? we have a lot of ICE F150 in FL, I might can find you one.

 

[CerebralPrimate]

Worth noting that Comma does not do media / influencer review units so all units have been purchased (including myself), though someone could buy and return within 30 days if they really wanted to.

That's actually really good to know. When I see videos where someone is supposedly reviewing a product that has a non-trivial value, and I know they got theirs for free, it always makes me question just how honest they are being... or when they are a bigger channel and they likely have some kind of pricey affiliate agreement.

So yeah, good to know any videos I find of the Comma 3X product are from people who actually had enough interest to spend their own cash.

 

[PJnc284]

Don't go in expecting it to be anywhere close to Tesla FSD but I would say it's better than Blue Cruise mainly due to the fact that it works anywhere and isn't subscription based. I'd much rather pay up front than get stuck with a monthly/yearly subscription praying that I get updates since Ford sucks at them and that's putting it nicely. I went down the FDRS rabbit hole last Fall on my 23 after an update got hung and never retried. 6 hours later and I was up to date and had all BC 1.4 features which we still have people waiting for today.

Had been on the fence on trying the comma but decided to bite the bullet a month ago after Branden's initial video. Also helped that they were running a $200 off sale. It certainly has its quirks like needing the usb adapter to stop the start-up errors and can require some tweaking to get it to your liking. If you're a fairly tech savvy person, it's worth a try. For those that still have a flip phone or want something that just works, the comma may not be the right option. No regrets so far and I still have 2.5 years left on my Blue Cruise trial.

 

[watts/up]

For the cost, I think it's a pretty good deal, especially if you're logging highway miles. They do tend to go on sale a couple times a year, so if you really care about saving money you could wait but I think it's still worth the full $999 price. I can't compare it to BlueCruise since I have a Pro and my truck didn't even have ACC from the factory but, at least for me, the subscription and lack of updates would be deal-breakers. I'm at the point where I miss not having it if I forget to bring my 3x with me on drives.

 

[cwstnsko]

With the current level of functionality and my driving habits, the only way I can imagine paying for BlueCruise would be to buy it for a couple individual months to cover the 2 or 3 road trips I usually do in a year.
I’m accumulating the pieces I need to get a Comma up and running, but I’m trying to be patient and wait for a sale, or find a used one.

 

[PJnc284]

With the current level of functionality and my driving habits, the only way I can imagine paying for BlueCruise would be to buy it for a couple individual months to cover the 2 or 3 road trips I usually do in a year.

That's probably how most will end up doing it. Unless you're traveling several hundred interstate miles a day, paying $50 a couple times a year is way better than paying $500 each year. Then you better be happy with the current functionality because even if Ford decided to provide any more improvements for existing models, who knows when you'll actually get them. Granted geohot's attitude to the very people supporting his self-driving endeavor is a strike against comma. Customer service isn't very high on their list.

 

[Ajzride]

That's probably how most will end up doing it. Unless you're traveling several hundred interstate miles a day, paying $50 a couple times a year is way better than paying $500 each year. Then you better be happy with the current functionality because even if Ford decided to provide any more improvements for existing models, who knows when you'll actually get them. Granted geohot's attitude to the very people supporting his self-driving endeavor is a strike against comma. Customer service isn't very high on their list.

There is a competitor that has excellent customer service:

https://konik.ai/


i have a C3X from Comma and an A1 from Konik, BluePilot runs the exact same on both.

 

[PJnc284]

lol. A Polish made modified comma. Brilliant! 14 day trial and having to return all the way to poland is a bit meh though. Wonder what "thermal enhancements" were made.

 

[AirVeg]

Any chance anyone has a photo of the Comma mounted below their FITCAMX? I really don’t want to hinder my visibility by mounting too low, but I’d also prefer to keep a separate dash cam.

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