Ford Gave Me 2 Level 2 Chargers

[Gaffer]

So I got my Extended Range Lightning XLT last week and the dealership sent me home with a Wallbox Pulsar Plus charger. Then today I got a package from SunRun with a Ford Station Pro unexpectedly. I just read online that ER models come with the Ford Station Pro, the dealership never mentioned this and I wasn’t aware, so seems odd they also gave me the Wallbox. Obviously, not complaining, just glad I didn’t already pay someone to install the Wallbox. May sell it or install it at work. Out of curiosity, anyone else have this happen?

If I had a serious question for the community, anyone use the Ford Station Pro to charge a non Ford EV? We also have an Ioniq 5, I assume it’ll charge it without a problem, but wanted to make sure.

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[Zaptor]

Do you have a 100A circuit available? If so, choose the Ford unit, which will charge your ER at 80A. If you don't have panel capacity for 100A there's no real advantage to the Ford unit, and I'd advise selling that one and installing the Pulsar, which will charge both (likely at 40A or 48A on a 50A or 60A breaker respectively). The Ford unit has an 'extra' set of pins for the Home Integration System (that nobody seems to like and is really expensive) so you may need an adaptor to get it to fit the Ioniq. Congrats on the truck and bonus charger!

 

[Heliian]

The fcsp comes included with ER versions and was shipped by Sunrun automatically.
It can be configured to fit almost any panel as it has internal hardware setting to reduce the amperage, mine is set for 48a on a 60a breaker and it works great.

Your dealer must have had some promotion for the wallbox.
The wallbox is rated for 40a and looks like it uses a nema plug.

Personally, I would install the fcsp and keep the wallbox as a backup/2nd location charger.

 

[Maquis]

The Wallbox must be a dealer promotion. It didn’t come from Ford.

 

[PreservedSwine]

The fcsp comes included with ER versions and was shipped by Sunrun automatically.
It can be configured to fit almost any panel as it has internal hardware setting to reduce the amperage, mine is set for 48a on a 60a breaker and it works great.

Your dealer must have had some promotion for the wallbox.
The wallbox is rated for 40a and looks like it uses a nema plug.

Personally, I would install the fcsp and keep the wallbox as a backup/2nd location charger.

I have a wallbox plus that looks just like the one pictured above. It charges up to 48 AMPS
The app has been flawless. I’d recommend it to anyone.

You’ll need to check the sticker to see if you have the 40 or 48 AMP version

 

[Heliian]

I have a wallbox plus that looks just like the one pictured above. It charges up to 48 AMPS
The app has been flawless. I’d recommend it to anyone.

You’ll need to check the sticker to see if you have the 40 or 48 AMP version

Ah, I thought it was the plug version. Either way, good choice! I'd still keep both.

 

[quentinkessel]

My dealer forgot to order my Lightening, and when it finally came they insisted I pay about $700 for the charger that I insisted should have come free with the truck. Months later Sunrun sent me a second charger. I returned the second charger to the dealer and they refunded my earlier payment.

 

[stickyfingers]

To answer one of your questions, I have been unable to charge a Tesla Model Y using the multiple adapters from Amazon (from FCSP to Tesla adapter) and connected to the FCSP. I gave up and installed a 240v outlet separately for my wife to charge her Tesla. There are many threads and I'm not sure if someone else got the FCSP to charge anything other than a F-150. My only experience was with the Tesla. Before someone suggests it, I even throttled down the FCSP to 32 amps and even lower (opened the cover of the FCSP to dial it down) but was unable to initiate charge. It clicks and doesn't charge.

 

[Zprime29]

The FCSP can charge any EV that has the full CCS1 combo port (J-1772 + DC pins). There are only a handful of EV that can take the full 80 amps, the ER lightnings being one of them. Lucid is the only other one I can think of off the top of my head.

The wallbox will probably have a better user interface than the FCSP, if that matters to you. Ford's cloud has had numerous issues maintaining connection to the FCSP via FordPass app.

 

[Howard_Scott_Warshaw]

If you don't think you'll ever need 80A of charging capacity (you'll never get home with 20 miles left at 11pm and need to drive 250 miles at 6am the next day) then sell the CSP on ebay while it still has value.

The new ER trucks no longer have the capability to charge at 80A + there is no use case for the Home Integration System + other companies coming out with V2X capabilities = CSP is functionally dead

 

[cdherman]

FCSP with its combined CCS setup is nearly impossible to use on a plain jane J1772 equipped EV/PHEV etc.

I sort of was unaware of that -- installed the FCSP for my bothers Lightning, was planning on testing with my RAV4 Prime (which I had used to ferry my tools, wiring to his home). I was incredulous. Like, why was this not mentioned earlier?

Ford=STUPID when in comes to the FCSP. I envision pulling that box back off the wall at some point and just using some reliable 48A capable unit.

 

[Maquis]

Ford=STUPID when in comes to the FCSP.

It is designed to allow feeding DC from the HVB to an inverter for use in a backup power scenario. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it stupid.

 

[Monkey]

Unless you really want/need to charge at 80 Amps or want to install the extra hardware for home power backup, the Ford Charger isn't worth it. It's known to be a bit flakey at times and it does not play nice with certain EVs that don't have a CCS charge port. It's essentially impossible to charge an EV or PHEV that only has a J1772 port and a Tesla needs you to modify a J1772 adapter to fit the CCS...

If that is the 48A capable version of the Wallbox, install that one and sell the Ford unit. The Wallbox can be direct wired and they're good chargers.

...Just a warning selling the Ford unit. Lots of them out there for sale so you won't get much.

 

[OFP]

To answer one of your questions, I have been unable to charge a Tesla Model Y using the multiple adapters from Amazon (from FCSP to Tesla adapter) and connected to the FCSP. I gave up and installed a 240v outlet separately for my wife to charge her Tesla. There are many threads and I'm not sure if someone else got the FCSP to charge anything other than a F-150. My only experience was with the Tesla. Before someone suggests it, I even throttled down the FCSP to 32 amps and even lower (opened the cover of the FCSP to dial it down) but was unable to initiate charge. It clicks and doesn't charge.

This may get lost, but this is the charger I got for my partners Y and the adapter. Since we only have the one wall charger (I bought and installed ahead of time not realizing Ford sends one).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BP1GM76?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7MN8LZ2?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Charges flawlessly. All very basic and factory settings aside from charging times for the truck or the Y.

 

[bmwhitetx]

Another vote for selling the Ford unit and using the Wallbox. Too many issues with the FCSP app. And the connector and cable are too bulky for L2 charging. 48 amps is plenty juice. I lived with the FCSP for a year before I sold it and switched to a smaller unit. Best upgrade I made.

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