I need someone to help me respond to this if possible.

[Jodokk]

So what is the verdict?

It works!
They used a four-prong plug with neutral and ground separated. Landed the aGate ground in the box.
Have a feeling this is what Franklin is advising all around. But, I don't know.

I'm just glad it works.
Putting in a whole home surge protector.

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[astrand1]

What they likely didn't tell/show you is that they disconnected the ground from the truck.

That’s the easiest way to get around the ground fault. That’s what lots of us who have the powerboost have done. And now with my lightning that’s the same setup I have although now I have a whole house generac so not much need but it’s nice to have a backup for the backup.

 

[v2h8484]

That’s the easiest way to get around the ground fault. That’s what lots of us who have the powerboost have done. And now with my lightning that’s the same setup I have although now I have a whole house generac so not much need but it’s nice to have a backup for the backup.

Yep that's the most practical solution but you might trigger another reminder from someone on the forum about not being code compliant and the safety risks of disconnecting the ground.

 

[astrand1]

Yep that's the most practical solution but you might trigger another reminder from someone on the forum about not being code compliant and the safety risks of disconnecting the ground.

Oh I’m sure the electric Karen’s will go nuts but the bottom line is that the system is still grounded. And the trucks system is sensitive enough that even without the ground of it senses anything off it will still trip the breaker.

 

[Jodokk]

I think you're correct, and, at the same time, we're left without updated codex for these very new situations.
I am still planning to get an isolation transformer set up to bring everything into total compliance. This current set up is for the outside chance that we get slammed by another hurricane up here in WNC.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

The 'ground' on the truck is just a chassis-ground, not a earth-ground-electrode.

 

[chl]

The 'ground' on the truck is just a chassis-ground, not a earth-ground-electrode.

Right.
To power a dwelling and be code compliant (and safe) the truck itself should be earth grounded somewhere nearby just like any bonded generator setup.

BTW, the tripping of the Lightning when switching the GENERAC transfer switch, even though everything is wired correctly, seems to be normal - it happened in this video near the end:

 

[chl]

Oh I’m sure the electric Karen’s will go nuts but the bottom line is that the system is still grounded. And the trucks system is sensitive enough that even without the ground of it senses anything off it will still trip the breaker.

The truck chassis is at the same potential as the neutral because it is a bonded neutral system.

If the ground wire is disconnected, the truck is not at the same ground potential as the house.

I'm sure you can think of reasons this is dangerous if you put your mind to it. Or ask Karen the electrician?

Yes, sometimes a neutral can shock you.

There are reasons for the NEC, safety reasons, yes, safety reasons.

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[RLXXI]

In U.S. electrical systems, neutral bond to ground is done at only 1 (ONE) place and that's typically at the first disconnect, your main service box, straight to a steel rod hammered down 8' into the ground and NOWHERE ELSE.

An automotive ground is non existent, sure they call it a ground in schematics to provide a complete circuit path, negative to positive. When you try and ground that system to a system already grounded you get a ground loop, (dangerous). You only need provide 2 (TWO) circuits to the home from the truck and that's the 2 hot wires, NOTHING else.

If one stops to think about the terminology eg: Ground, they are literally talking about the ground aka mother earth aka terra firma aka that brown or red stuff you're walking on. Can't ground a vehicle obviously.

I'm not an electrician by any means although I do have formal training in the field, that is the way my local electrician explained it to me.

 

[chl]

Imagine you cut the ground wire and aren't using a neutral switching transfer switch, then the driveway or yard ground is wet and you or you child touch the truck when there is neutral current present...

 

[astrand1]

The truck chassis is at the same potential as the neutral because it is a bonded neutral system.

If the ground wire is disconnected, the truck is not at the same ground potential as the house.

I'm sure you can think of reasons this is dangerous if you put your mind to it. Or ask Karen the electrician?

Yes, sometimes a neutral can shock you.

There are reasons for the NEC, safety reasons, yes, safety reasons.

S A F E T Y

Well that took way longer than I thought it would. Yes well aware of all of the above. I operate generators in the entertainment industry. My point only is that the truck is kind of a unique case because of how it operates and is quite sensitive. Could you possibly get hurt? Sure.

Imagine you cut the ground wire and aren't using a neutral switching transfer switch, then the driveway or yard ground is wet and you or you child touch the truck when there is neutral current present...

Not that I’m advocating anyone test this. But I have a sneaking suspicion if your example above even tried to happen the trucks electronics would shut it down in a second if it sensed current running on the neutral. That’s my point is that the truck is a lot smarter than we might think it is. We have rules in place and that’s a good thing but common sense and a little street smarts also goes a long way as well.

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