Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

[TruckOwner1]

Personally, I am not upset at Ford's decision to cancel the lightning. They are losing money on the platform, so they have to do something.

I'm also not opposed to EREV's. In fact, I was excited about the toolbox generator before the Lightning even came to market. I could see a world where Ford or some 3rd party would lease the generator whenever you were planning on taking a trip through areas with poor charging infrastructure.

What bothers me is that Ford is taking the wrong lesson from their failures. I am hoping they will call off this train wreck before they throw away even more money. Despite how large they are, there is a limit to how much money they can waste. As expensive as vehicles have become, if Ford has to sell off it will lead to even higher prices.

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[Hawkman]

First of all, thank you to everyone for the candid feedback and discussions in this forum. I have been sharing common themes with management. I want to triple down on something initially shared. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. We are also committed to ensuring ongoing support of our vehicles’ software quality and experience.


Sharing more information on the above as I get my hands on it.

• We have good dealer stock of F-150 Lightning now and more in transit to dealers for those who may want one
• We expect to have F-150 Lightning inventory into 2026, so there is plenty of opportunity for customers to get a Lightning for many months
• We will have early bird and renewal programs in place to support returning F-150 Lightning lessees and owners to get into another truck
• We will add additional programs next year to extend leases for customers interested in our new electric (UEV) pickup truck coming in 2027
• We will add additional programs to support off-lease customers who are interested in purchasing their F-150L and keep it for a long time
• Ford Power Promise continues in 2026

I don't like the fact that it seems Ford is catering to those who leased and not providing any relief for those who bought.

Also, why should we believe Ford about any new technology in new vehicles? They just proved that they don't stand behind their "new" products. Should we buy into their new idea only to abandon it 3 years later?

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

Has anyone said anything other than the United States is lagging sorely behind the rest of the world? The statement stands, and is still true.

Where it will take them 15 more years, we're on track for half a century or more of "no take my vroom vroom".

If you consider the US personal auto fleet is approx 300-million cars/Lt trucks,
of those 4-million are currently EV/PHEV.
New car sales are 14-15 million units per year...of those 1-2 million are EV/PHEV units.
even if 100% of new passenger vehicles sold from now on were EV's - it would take 20 years to replace the fleet, and we can't build 14-million EV's per year currently.

The point is, "no matter what", a transition from ICE to EV will take a lot longer than most people realize, even in coutries like Norway, the minimum is 15 more years. In N. America the EV output at current rates of growth will take 60-80 years just to make 300-million new EV/PHEV vehicles...and then theres the rest of the infrastructure to go with that.

 

[TaxmanHog]

All members of the forum, PLEASE review your posts in this thread for disrespectful statements, consider adjusting the post such that it does not incite anger amongst the population of readers, that goes for all perspectives and points of view.

It's been a rough week reading the news about our beloved Lightning, but what is a greater challenge is reading the divisive sentiments.

Thank you to all who have shared your gut felt reaction and personal analysis of what the future brings.

Let's keep the forum a place that welcomes all Ford Lightning BEV enthusiast, we have a long way to go driving these trucks, positive & helpful contributions are welcome, anything else is subject to removal at the call of the forum administration.

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

Brian @Ford Motor Company thank you for the awesome support and transparency.

Quick question, will you continue to evaluate the DCFC charging curve on the Lightning? The updated curve that the 2025’s shipped with is great, but still hardly stresses the pack. It would be fantastic to see if 500a can be held longer.

That’s said if it’s prioritizing DCFC speeds or improving the app and Sync UI experience for owners, then I’d say focus on the user experience.

 

[Newton]

Has anyone said anything other than the United States is lagging sorely behind the rest of the world? The statement stands, and is still true.

Where it will take them 15 more years, we're on track for half a century or more of "no take my vroom vroom".

Well, which nation is the world's leading oil producer? Hint, it isn't in the Middle East.

Getting off of oil is is becoming a security issue for other countries, aside from the environmental and health impacts.

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

Well, which nation is the world's leading oil producer? Hint, it isn't in the Middle East.

Getting off of oil is is becoming a security issue for other countries, aside from the environmental and health impacts.

What does that have to do with Ford or this community? That’s political policy which we have no control over.

 

[Ragnar]

I'm not even sure what this posting from Ford implies. EREV?? LFP Battery, mid-size truck? On-Board Generator? If you're asking me if I would buy a Mid-Size (Ford Ranger), with a battery that is twice as heavy, get's 2/3 of the storage efficiency of the current battery, and would have to be as heavy as a full size T3 Ford Lightning, the answer is no thanks. LFP is a battery tech that has been around a while, and while it has a lot of charge cycles, just doesn't meet the goal of having a 100% EV that can tow heavy trailers, and needs a gas motor to charge the battery en-route, you might want to poll your customers, because this will not be a good seller in my opinion. You should look at the new AL-Ion battery, which is 1/2 the weight, and charges fast and has the potential for very good range. You have a good product in the Ford Lightning, (T3), and just needed to work on the range, and lowering the cost.

Good Luck to Ford,

 

[gregoryhcain]

Why not keep the BEV option for those of us who rarely tow and when we do we don’t go far. I can see for that user who has long-distance towing as part of the recreation or their business, the ERBV would be an advantage. However, it adds a lot of complexity and a lot more maintenance. I would think a modular add-on for extended range of the current vehicle would make sense. EV battery costs are going to come down, but I don’t see the technology that an EREV like you are proposing is gonna make this more affordable. Good luck with your new endeavor. Unfortunately I have no use for it and I will just keep my BEV until I’m either too old to drive or my Lightning wears out, whichever comes first.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Anyone see the new recall for park function?

 

[Rayo1839]

I’m happy to keep my ‘24 Flash for as long as possible. What I’m worried about is parts and batteries being available for those of us who get the extended warranty and stay for the long haul.

That’s my concern as well, I just purchased mine two weeks ago and paid Ford 4200.00 for the Premium extended warranty nine years or 125,000 miles bumper-to-bumper.

 

[Iamgote]

This should have been Ford's solution. It still can be without having to change a thing with the Lightning.

2 miles per kWh towing a trailer 200 miles with 30% charge left.

Message to Ford:

Ford: It's about the Energy eco system, not a truck. You had poor sales because you didn't address the whole system, this is where you have to go to grow in the future. If you think you are "just" a car company, you will be relegated to the back as energy systems companies offer full solutions.

Ford should invest in this company so trailers can be built with this drive system for all markets, commercial, leisure, recreational. It doesn't stop there, Ford would also need to invest in charging locations where you can charge both the truck and trailer at the same time. THEN they can tie in that nice big fat battery on the trailer (that Ford would also produce) into the home energy system and the solar panels on top of the trailer. Home energy by Ford. This would capture the future market, not give it to more aggressive competitors.

Use case....me: I am building EV offroad vehicles. My enclosed trailer "could" be charging all week long using solar panels and the battery under the trailer. That battery and associated motor would then assist me when I travel to a race without undue charge stops and time (and over heated batteries and over heated motors). When I arrive I can recharge my electric vehicles from the trailer battery and it gets a bonus charge from the solar over the next few days. When I get back home my trailer is now my energy backup for my home.

Ford: There is SO much value to be had here and you have all of the components to make it happen. Stop what you are doing and go make it happen!

@Ford Motor Company

 

[theUNSTABLE]

@Ford Motor Company

Putting in my hope for open source software or at least full control developer accounts for owners.

Please?

 

[Timeless Epoch]

I’d love to see much more aerodynamic consideration in the RV world, but lightship can keep their $150-200K solution.

 

[Jim Lewis]

Putting in my hope for open source software or at least full control developer accounts for owners.

Please?

I don't think Ford would/could do that until the warranty period runs out for the battery and drive train. Otherwise, they'd be opening a can of worms for themselves. But, YEAH!, after our warranties are dead, 100%!

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