NACS + J1772 Home Charger -- Tesla Universal Wall Connector launched

[GDN]

Thanks @LUXMAN for the heads up (I also see I have an email from Tesla) but there is a new Universal WC announced today. $595 - has NACS and J1772 built in - works similar to the Magic Dock.

This is a great value for Wifi connectivity, no need for a Tesla Tap which would cost a few hundred more. Unfortunately I've already invested in that set up.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/univ...onnector_launch&utm_content=universal_charger

Looks like @tommolog has his hands on one and maybe one of the first or only with a unit delivered to a reviewer.

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[Zprime29]

Just saw his video. Very cool tech. I might opt for one when we eventually replace the pilot with an EV. Good chance it will have NACS but it'll be nice that it could also serve as a back up to the FCSP. Brilliant move/design by Tesla.

 

[vandy1981]

These are one of the few chargers capable of load sharing, so it's perfect for multi-EV households.

 

[COrocket]

Seems like the best way to install a future-proof charger that is still reasonably easy to use with todays J1772 cars. Really the only reason I haven’t bothered installing a hardwired J1772 charger is I know I’d eventually want a NACS one and don’t want to do the install again down the road

 

[Nick503955]

Waiting for the V2G backfeed capable wall connector…

 

[shutterbug]

While this unit has a reasonable price of $600, it is typically not eligible for utility discount/rebate. The 2 utility companies in the Phoenix area have the units from Chargepoint and EnelX at $250 off.

 

[intensifi]

https://electrek.co/2023/08/15/tesla-universal-wall-connector-charging-world-on-notice/

Too bad it lacks VTH capability!

Otherwise I would buy one in a few months.

 

[GDN]

Waiting for the V2G backfeed capable wall connector…

That will be interesting to see what comes from Tesla and the Cybertruck, but we don't know if it will have that feature. If it does, it'll be interesting to see how Tesla implements that, they have a different way of doing things. For backfeed you'll obvious have to have additional hardware like HIS from Ford or maybe this charger would handle the job and just hard wire downstream from the additional HIS type equipment.

 

[Roy2001]

It just has an adapter, Tesla to J1772 for 48A.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Thanks @LUXMAN for the heads up (I also see I have an email from Tesla) but there is a new Universal WC announced today. $595 - has NACS and J1772 built in - works similar to the Magic Dock.

This is a great value for Wifi connectivity, no need for a Tesla Tap which would cost a few hundred more. Unfortunately I've already invested in that set up.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/univ...onnector_launch&utm_content=universal_charger

Looks like @tommolog has his hands on one and maybe one of the first or only with a unit delivered to a reviewer.

For ER folks, might still be better to go with TeslaTap and a Gen 2 wall charger to be able to get 80A. w/load sharing.

I'm ok with 48A (heck even 32A) the majority of the time. But the couple of times I've needed it, 80A was REALLY nice.

 

[Maquis]

For ER folks, might still be better to go with TeslaTap and a Gen 2 wall charger to be able to get 80A. w/load sharing.

I'm ok with 48A (heck even 32A) the majority of the time. But the couple of times I've needed it, 80A was REALLY nice.

The gen 2 is 48A max. Only the original gen 1 was capable of 80.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

The gen 2 is 48A max. Only the original gen 1 was capable of 80.

Nope, my Gen 2s are 80A. Gen 3s is when they were reduced.

I've got 2 installed in my garage, load sharing and both capable of 80A.

Here you go straight from the source:
https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/gen-2-wall-connector

Scroll down to the bottom for the Gen 2 installation guide and click on it and you'll see a nice big 80A single phase label too.

*Edit are you thinking Gen2 mobile connector? They reduced the amperage compared to the Gen1 mobile connectors, but that was a reduction of 32A from 48A.

 

[GDN]

Agree @Yellow Buddy - Gen 2 is capable of 80 amp, so truly could be nice to have long term. I do have mine on a 60 amp breaker dialed to 48 amp.

I also have a 14-50 for a mobile charger. Used to use them both at the same time when we had two model 3's. The 14-50 plug is still in the garage, but we truly have no need to charge both at once now. So one night the truck and then later in the week the Y both using the WC Just whoever needs more juice.

 

[Maquis]

Nope, my Gen 2s are 80A. Gen 3s is when they were reduced.

I've got 2 installed in my garage, load sharing and both capable of 80A.

Here you go straight from the source:
https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/gen-2-wall-connector

Scroll down to the bottom for the Gen 2 installation guide and click on it and you'll see a nice big 80A single phase label too.

*Edit are you thinking Gen2 mobile connector? They reduced the amperage compared to the Gen1 mobile connectors, but that was a reduction of 32A from 48A.

I‘m familiar with that link. This is what led me to make that conclusion:

I know older Teslas had 19 KW chargers. I suppose they could still charge at that rate with a gen 2, and the current modelsk internal Charger limits the rate to 48A?

 

[Yellow Buddy]

I‘m familiar with that link. This is what led me to make that conclusion:

I know older Teslas had 19 KW chargers. I suppose they could still charge at that rate with a gen 2, and the current modelsk internal Charger limits the rate to 48A?

That’s correct.

The charger adjusts to what’s plugged into it. And it can be dialed down just like the FCSP but for a maximum between the two.

If I plug my 48A MS in, it’ll charge at 48A. If I plug the Lightning in, it’ll pull 80A. If both are plugged in, it’ll drop the Lightning down to 60A and keep pumping 20A the the Model S.

I also have a 14-50 like @GDN and if I plug the Lightning in, the Model S in, the Model X in the 14-50, I’ll pull 128A from my garage panel. But the reality is 90% of the time I’m pulling less than 48A between all three cars. My Teslas typically get turned down to 12A. My Ford chargers at 32A on the 14-50 and it’s rare that even 2 cars are plugged in at the same time.

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