RIP RAM BEV

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https://electrek.co/2025/09/12/rams-electric-pickup-truck-officially-dead/

Stellaris EV truck is cancelled. I'm speechless.

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[hturnerfamily]

I don't doubt it, as they are still on track to roll out the REVRam model, PURE EV, but with a 'generator' engine up front.
It WILL BE a pure ev, since it will only move with the BATTERY, but it will have the 'extended range' generator engine package, if needed.
You don't HAVE to use the engine, but it's there if you do.

It is also NOT a hybrid.

The new SCOUT also looks like it's going to have a similar 'rear engine' generator, too, which I like much more than the typical Hybrid or Plug-In Hybrid design.
Those 'un-pure' EVs have to also have transmissions, and REQUIRE the use of the engine, since they have such low 'ev' range - that is their design.

 

[richguy82]

I am open to the idea of having a generator just to charge the batteries. I am probably in the minority of opinions here in that I’d prefer it to be located in the bed of the truck and not my precious frunk!

 

[hturnerfamily]

yes, I agree - the SCOUT's 'harvester' engine generator is supposedly located at the very rear of the vehicle - at least on their SUV version - where they are going to locate it on the 'Terrain' truck version is still in the works...

like our old Diesel Pusher MOTORHOME, with the engine in the far rear, you never heard it - talking and driving was a breeze without all that noise!

 

[Altivec]

I am open to the idea of having a generator just to charge the batteries. I am probably in the minority of opinions here in that I’d prefer it to be located in the bed of the truck and not my precious frunk!

I don't understand the appeal of this at all. EV trucks are great for people that don't do a lot of long distance driving. If that's your use case, you gain, low cost operation, a frunk, etc... There is a huge market for those that don't do long range driving but politics and poor marketing have not allowed people to understand the distinction of the two types of drivers (in other words, its not for everyone but it may be for you). There is equally a huge market of buyers that do a lot of long distance driving. So with this REV, you lose your frunk or a section of your bed for this heavy generator, regardless if you use it or not (a loss of efficiency). Your battery will be smaller to offset this weight, meaning you will go through its life cycles faster. You must now go to gas stations and do oil changes again. If you don't use your generator often, the fuel gets stale and the seals dry up. You also gain the complexities and expense of specialty repairs. Why in the world would you get something like this over a proven ICE f150 if you do a lot of long distance driving? All I see are problems waiting to happen for no extra benefit other than saying look at me I am saving the planet by hauling around a gas generator in my inefficient EV truck.

 

[ctuan13]

I don't understand the appeal of this at all. EV trucks are great for people that don't do a lot of long distance driving. If that's your use case, you gain, low cost operation, a frunk, etc... There is a huge market for those that don't do long range driving but politics and poor marketing have not people understand the distinction of the two drivers (in other words, its not for everyone but it may be for you). There is equally a huge market of buyers that do a lot of long distance driving. So with this REV, you lose your frunk or a section of your bed for this heavy generator, regardless if you use it or not (a loss of efficiency). Your battery will be smaller to offset this weight, meaning you will go through its life cycles faster. You must now go to gas stations and do oil changes again. If you don't use your generator often, the fuel gets stale and the seals dry up. You also gain the complexities and expense of specialty repairs. Why in the world would you get something like this over a proven ICE f150 if you do a lot of long distance driving? All I see are problems waiting to happen for no extra benefit other than saying look at me I am saving the planet by hauling around a gas generator in my inefficient EV truck.

You bring up a lot of points that echo my own opinions. But I will say after two summers of cross country roadrtrip camper towing, I still prefer the instant torque and control as well as fade-resistance in the form of regen for breaking when descending grades. So for my use case a EREV would be a great option.

But since that is also still years away and even more added complexity, I've decided to purchase a heavy duty gas truck as a designated long-haul towing vehicle. (I'll do a reveal when I get home from my trip ) (Don't worry, keeping the Lightning, this is in addition)

 

[Firn]

I don't understand the appeal of this at all. EV trucks are great for people that don't do a lot of long distance driving. If that's your use case, you gain, low cost operation, a frunk, etc... There is a huge market for those that don't do long range driving but politics and poor marketing have not people understand the distinction of the two drivers (in other words, its not for everyone but it may be for you). There is equally a huge market of buyers that do a lot of long distance driving. So with this REV, you lose your frunk or a section of your bed for this heavy generator, regardless if you use it or not (a loss of efficiency). Your battery will be smaller to offset this weight, meaning you will go through its life cycles faster. You must now go to gas stations and do oil changes again. If you don't use your generator often, the fuel gets stale and the seals dry up. You also gain the complexities and expense of specialty repairs. Why in the world would you get something like this over a proven ICE f150 if you do a lot of long distance driving? All I see are problems waiting to happen for no extra benefit other than saying look at me I am saving the planet by hauling around a gas generator in my inefficient EV truck.

I know I'm a broken record here but I want a (Ford certified) external generator connection.

Let me RENT a generator for the few times a year i need it. Just give me the connection out back so I can connect a 5, 10, 20kw generator and extend my range.

 

[Altivec]

I know I'm a broken record here but I want a (Ford certified) external generator connection.

Let me RENT a generator for the few times a year i need it. Just give me the connection out back so I can connect a 5, 10, 20kw generator and extend my range.

That makes a billion times more sense. That would open up the market to many more people. Like those that stay around town most of the time but like to travel several times a year. That would make for a great marketing commercial too.

 

[wighty]

I know I'm a broken record here but I want a (Ford certified) external generator connection.

Let me RENT a generator for the few times a year i need it. Just give me the connection out back so I can connect a 5, 10, 20kw generator and extend my range.

Yep, I'm 100% with you. I'd even say it would be great if they had it they should offer even smaller battery packs (like I'd almost gladly take a like 75-100 mile range for my truck) assuming the generator is portable enough to easily setup.

 

[richguy82]

I don't understand the appeal of this at all. EV trucks are great for people that don't do a lot of long distance driving. If that's your use case, you gain, low cost operation, a frunk, etc... There is a huge market for those that don't do long range driving but politics and poor marketing have not people understand the distinction of the two drivers (in other words, its not for everyone but it may be for you). There is equally a huge market of buyers that do a lot of long distance driving. So with this REV, you lose your frunk or a section of your bed for this heavy generator, regardless if you use it or not (a loss of efficiency). Your battery will be smaller to offset this weight, meaning you will go through its life cycles faster. You must now go to gas stations and do oil changes again. If you don't use your generator often, the fuel gets stale and the seals dry up. You also gain the complexities and expense of specialty repairs. Why in the world would you get something like this over a proven ICE f150 if you do a lot of long distance driving? All I see are problems waiting to happen for no extra benefit other than saying look at me I am saving the planet by hauling around a gas generator in my inefficient EV truck.

I didn’t say I would buy one. I am aware of the downsides. You are taking my statement too literally. I was kidding and making a point about my love of the frunk.

 

[RickKeen]

I know I'm a broken record here but I want a (Ford certified) external generator connection.
Let me RENT a generator for the few times a year i need it. Just give me the connection out back so I can connect a 5, 10, 20kw generator and extend my range.

Just rent the whole truck. Plenty of places rent pickup trucks that would meet the needs for occasional longer range trips and towing. Much cheaper to pay $300-$400 for a weekend rental a few times per year than sit on $20,000 more expensive vehicle.

 

[richguy82]

To the point about a temporary generator setup, I absolutely agree. In fact I am planning on bringing my propane generator with me on an upcoming trailer trip (which is a rarity for me). My truck and I will be stationary for half the day and I’ll be in the middle of nowhere with no options nearby to recharge. Perfect time to charge up.

 

[RickLightning]

We had 3 Chrysler family minivans over the years. They got progressively worse. We sold our 2006 in 2012(?) and I swore I would never buy a Stellantis product. I had a 1982 Jeep CJ7. When Chrysler bought them in 1987, that was a sad day (although Jeep had perfected the rusting windshield frame).

I will never buy a vehicle with a gas engine of any type in it again, unless EVs go away.

 

[Altivec]

I didn’t say I would buy one. I am aware of the downsides. You are taking my statement too literally. I was kidding and making a point about my love of the frunk.

LOL... Sorry if you felt attacked. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. My intention was not to make you feel bad. A lot of people do think that EREV's are going to be the best thing since sliced bread but fail to understand, that they are not a new concept and have been around for a long time already. There are plenty of negatives to them that people just don't realize. I am just passing on info gained from first hand experience of owning one. Bottom line, I don't care what anyone buys. I'll even say, for a tiny sliver of the market, an EREV might even be the best choice for them. Just putting out some info to think about... Once again, sorry if you felt attacked.

 

[Firn]

Just rent the whole truck. Plenty of places rent pickup trucks that would meet the needs for occasional longer range trips and towing. Much cheaper to pay $300-$400 for a weekend rental a few times per year than sit on $20,000 more expensive vehicle.

The point is to rent a generator (not buy a more expensive vehicle). I could use my truck, my setup, (my insurance) to tow my travel trailer to say, Florida, for a week.

Renting a generator to use my own vehicle would be much less expensive than renting an entire truck.

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