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hmmm no thanks! you should REALLY check with your insurance company...Ford requirements for installation of the 80A charger are clear and that's what insurance companies / local by laws will likely require.

For sure you can derate it, but I would not put my money on doing that without the proper set up, clearance from insurance company, local bylaw, etc...- if a fire were to happen, your insurance company will be looking at your house with a microscope and they could easily deny payment sole on the basis that you installed a 80A charger on a 200A when that specific charger had a clear outlined requirement for 400A....too much risk to lose my $1.1M house to something as small as that LOL...

I feel like a lot of people do work without thinking about the potential consequences to insurance, future sale, etc.

You realize Pioneer74 is a Ford employee in Dearborn at the Rouge production line right? You know, the facility where these Lightnings are being manufactured? Also, no electrician is going to install the necessary equipment against recommendations of Ford or Sunrun because their butts would be on the line as well…Oh and nice plug about the cost of your house. Really impressive man.

And funny that you mention people doing things without thinking about potential future consequences. In addition to considering those, I also like to post with up to date, knowledgeable, and accurate information.
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hmmm no thanks! you should REALLY check with your insurance company...Ford requirements for installation of the 80A charger are clear and that's what insurance companies / local by laws will likely require.

For sure you can derate it, but I would not put my money on doing that without the proper set up, clearance from insurance company, local bylaw, etc...- if a fire were to happen, your insurance company will be looking at your house with a microscope and they could easily deny payment sole on the basis that you installed a 80A charger on a 200A when that specific charger had a clear outlined requirement for 400A....too much risk to lose my $1.1M house to something as small as that LOL...

I feel like a lot of people do work without thinking about the potential consequences to insurance, future sale, etc.
Why would my insurance company need to know about an EV charger ?

Doesn't it just need a licensed & bonded electrician who pulls a permit from the city /county ?

My 200A service is more than enough according to my electrician for adding an extra 100A breaker.

My current PHEV L2 charger has a 30A breaker and my electrician can install another 100A breaker in the same garage.

He said due to many gas appliances, the house does not come close to using up all the wattage from the panel. Since we charge overnight, the load on the panel will be negligible.
 

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Got my reservation number on day one. Ordered my truck last week. Lariat ER. Just a tad over $80K.
Fine print said delivery estimate 20 to 24 weeks. (20 weeks on the battery). Late July maybe?
 

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I am so disappointed. I made my reservation at 8:03 pm MST (Colorado) on May 19th. But I have not gotten an invitation to order. Does anyone even know how many actual invitations have been sent?
 

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Got my reservation number on day one. Ordered my truck last week. Lariat ER. Just a tad over $80K.
Fine print said delivery estimate 20 to 24 weeks. (20 weeks on the battery). Late July maybe?
Lucky. You. I placed my reservation on May 19th at 8:03 pm Mountain Time. I should have been able to order by now but nothing has come.
 

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Why would my insurance company need to know about an EV charger ?

Doesn't it just need a licensed & bonded electrician who pulls a permit from the city /county ?

My 200A service is more than enough according to my electrician for adding an extra 100A breaker.

My current PHEV L2 charger has a 30A breaker and my electrician can install another 100A breaker in the same garage.

He said due to many gas appliances, the house does not come close to using up all the wattage from the panel. Since we charge overnight, the load on the panel will be negligible.
Likely a non- issue
 

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........................ a Mach E . Imagine my surprise when the Lightning picture came up after ordering the Mach E . I was talking to my dealer about the possibility of ordering a mach E as my backup plan to get the tax incentive. He told me the Mach E order banks are closing next week so I better do it soon. He wasn't sure why they were closing, just that they were. It's possible they want to either catch up with their backlog or they dont want too many outstanding orders once the incentive disappears for Ford at 200,000. I'll wait and see if the lightning situation improves since the mach-E is about 6 months out.
 

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I am so disappointed. I made my reservation at 8:03 pm MST (Colorado) on May 19th. But I have not gotten an invitation to order. Does anyone even know how many actual invitations have been sent?
We reserved at about the same time, I'm in Mass (A ZEV state) and got a Wave-3 invitation to order.

I think only high level Ford Corp folks know the big picture of how many invitations have been sent the first 4 waves to date. But going with the rumored 15,000 to be built in model year 22, then 4/6th of that have been sent by now +/- speculation
 

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We reserved at about the same time, I'm in Mass (A ZEV state) and got a Wave-3 invitation to order.

I think only high level Ford Corp folks know the big picture of how many invitations have been sent the first 4 waves to date. But going with the rumored 15,000 to be built in model year 22, then 4/6th of that have been sent by now +/- speculation
I’m curious how much the end of MY22 close out will be after the 6 waves, and the conversion rates of the waves. Feels like more and more people have been canceling reservations or deferring to MY23 for a sold out model. Guessing they’ll have to invite 25-35K to get their 15K filled. Also wish they would open up more to non-ZEV states or at least be more transparent about their strategy so people could plan accordingly. My truck doesn’t have much life left and I have no idea when in the next 1-1.5yrs I may get my truck
 

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Why would my insurance company need to know about an EV charger ?

Doesn't it just need a licensed & bonded electrician who pulls a permit from the city /county ?

My 200A service is more than enough according to my electrician for adding an extra 100A breaker.

My current PHEV L2 charger has a 30A breaker and my electrician can install another 100A breaker in the same garage.

He said due to many gas appliances, the house does not come close to using up all the wattage from the panel. Since we charge overnight, the load on the panel will be negligible.
all these people are tripping. You can install it on any breaker you need, they are adjustable chargers. Ford has realized they are selling to people with old houses that have old panels and don't want them to spend the tons extra money on upgrading their electrical just for the truck.
saying that, it would be a waste putting in an 80 amp charger on a 20amp breaker.
Per ford latest spec, you would need a 100amp breaker to fulfill the 80 amp charging.
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all these people are tripping. You can install it on any breaker you need, they are adjustable chargers. Ford has realized they are selling to people with old houses that have old panels and don't want them to spend the tons extra money on upgrading their electrical just for the truck.
saying that, it would be a waste putting in an 80 amp charger on a 20amp breaker.
Per ford latest spec, you would need a 100amp breaker to fulfill the 80 amp charging.
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Every picture I've seen of the Charge Station Pro shows a CCS1 connector, not a J1772. I will wait until I actually have it in hand, but will most likely sell it since it will not work on my wife's PHEV. If it is really only a J1772, I'll have it installed and use it for my Lighting and the wife's Pacifica PHEV.
 

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Every picture I've seen of the Charge Station Pro shows a CCS1 connector, not a J1772. I will wait until I actually have it in hand, but will most likely sell it since it will not work on my wife's PHEV. If it is really only a J1772, I'll have it installed and use it for my Lighting and the wife's Pacifica PHEV.
Fun to watch this kind of spiral out of control. We have a new Ford Charge Station Pro. My girl wanted to have it for her new Mach E. I have an older Chevy Volt. I just got a full charge on my car this afternoon using the Ford Charge Station Pro. Works perfectly. I used our solar to charge today. Free power is a beautiful thing. She can set her Ford app to have her car charge from midnight to 5 am to get the cheapest rates after our powerwalls run down to 5%. We had the Charge Station installed after our solar was completely installed and working. We had our main panel upgraded and had a sub panel installed. Suggest everyone get a solar system and then do not have to rely on the charging grid unless you are on a road trip.

And i think that the CCS1 connector is used for DC fast charging not normal home charging
 
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Fun to watch this kind of spiral out of control. We have a new Ford Charge Station Pro. My girl wanted to have it for her new Mach E. I have an older Chevy Volt. I just got a full charge on my car this afternoon using the Ford Charge Station Pro. Works perfectly. I used our solar to charge today. Free power is a beautiful thing. She can set her Ford app to have her car charge from midnight to 5 am to get the cheapest rates after our powerwalls run down to 5%. We had the Charge Station installed after our solar was completely installed and working. We had our main panel upgraded and had a sub panel installed. Suggest everyone get a solar system and then do not have to rely on the charging grid unless you are on a road trip.

And i think that the CCS1 connector is used for DC fast charging not normal home charging
Just to confirm, you have the Ford Charge Station Pro that will be supplied to everyone that has the F150 Lighting with the extended range battery and it does not have the CCS1? If so, that is great news!
 

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Just to confirm, you have the Ford Charge Station Pro that will be supplied to everyone that has the F150 Lighting with the extended range battery and it does not have the CCS1? If so, that is great news!
Yes Mickey you are correct sir. However, I am not planning on getting an ER battery with my Lighting so I will not be getting a station with my purchase. If I ever get a chance to put an order in for a Lighting. The Charge Station Pro was around $800 direct from Ford. It DOES NOT have a CCS1 connector. I believe that is for DC fast charging only.

I think the kid (electrician) charged us $400 to install. Telling you - this is the way to go...that is just about the cost of a couple of trips to the gas station these days.
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