Who would be stupid enough to buy after ford cancelin the lightning

[astrand1]

As someone who was born and raised in Los Angeles and remember the "brown clouds" covering DTLA, I can say that in comparison to today it has vastly improved.

But like another poster wrote......... when it happens people will as how did we fall so far behind....

I also grew up in the 80’s in LA. I too remember my chest hurting on those days when the smog was bad. And I will admit that carb helped get us cleaner air. But now that we have much more advanced engines and vehicles we don’t have those issues anymore. I don’t see us going back on that part. But when a cat that is “certified” for ca costs 2-3x more than the same converter sold in say Texas that to me is ridiculous.

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[F150ROD]

I also grew up in the 80’s in LA. I too remember my chest hurting on those days when the smog was bad. And I will admit that carb helped get us cleaner air. But now that we have much more advanced engines and vehicles we don’t have those issues anymore. I don’t see us going back on that part. But when a cat that is “certified” for ca costs 2-3x more than the same converter sold in say Texas that to me is ridiculous.

"precious metals" they say....... Im sure there is more to it. I also dislike CARB standards because Im restricted on what to put on my ICE cars but it is what it is.

 

[roddiaz1]

The later model years of discontinued vehicles usually preserve their value more and more sought after once they become collectibles.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

I kind of wonder if announcing the T3 so early on was a bit of a mistake.
I also think that only having the 100k versions on day 1 was also a mistake.

So basically you were lead to believe that the Lightning was a 100k vehicle that was going to be outdated in 3 years by the T3...... Hell, I even thought that the Lightnings were 100k until I started cross shopping the Rivian. If I didn't do this I wouldn't have ended up with the Flash at a pretty decent price.

 

[RLXXI]

The later model years of discontinued vehicles usually preserve their value more and more sought after once they become collectibles.

Would be nice but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[kuzzin]

I’m plenty stupid enough to go again. My 23 SR Pro has had it’s share of problems, mostly 3 GSMs the latest of which is the new part number, fingers crossed.

The truck is a work horse like no other. I tow heavy loads regularly to support agriculture. Mostly 30 to 50 miles. I constantly make use of ProPower.

I am currently on a long trip from deep south Texas to Kansas City. Even with SR batteries I drive speed limit +5 and have not dropped below 19% SOC. The Tesla Supercharger Network is a godsend. I hold high hopes for what Ionna is attempting as well.

Maybe I am just a “half full“ type. I plan to put 250k miles on this beast

 

[PrimeRisk]

I also love my lightning. However it will be my last Ford!

I'm in the same camp. Love the truck portion of the Lightning. Everything else sucks and I will never trust Ford again.

 

[PrimeRisk]

But, we are all driving future classics! I'll drive mine till the wheels fall off.

Unfortunately the odds are that you'll never get to where the wheels fall off, it will be a battery or BCM fault and Ford won't fix it (either no parts or no desire). I predict early EOL for out of warranty vehicles. Going to be quite the conundrum for those that bought the 10 year warranties when there is a fault and no parts to fix it.

 

[jimfigler]

They have to. That 10 year figure is a federal law.

No federal law compels auto manufacturers to produce replacement parts for a specific number of years. However, two federal acts create specific obligations. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 governs consumer product warranties. This law does not force a manufacturer to offer a warranty, but if they do, they must be able to provide the necessary parts to fulfill that warranty’s terms. This means parts must be available for the duration of any written warranty.
A more direct requirement comes from the federal Clean Air Act. This law mandates that manufacturers produce and make available certain components related to a vehicle’s emissions control system. These parts must be available for a specific period, which is for the duration of the emissions warranty. For many emissions components, such as the catalytic converter, engine control unit, and onboard diagnostic devices, this warranty period is set at 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever comes first.

 

[Jamchampnate]

Unfortunately the odds are that you'll never get to where the wheels fall off, it will be a battery or BCM fault and Ford won't fix it (either no parts or no desire). I predict early EOL for out of warranty vehicles. Going to be quite the conundrum for those that bought the 10 year warranties when there is a fault and no parts to fix it.

You do realize class action lawsuits exist right? When we purchased our cars Ford entered into a binding agreement on paper to provide the warranty they have written down- 10 years/100,000 miles. If they don’t honor that (and they obviously will) the class action would be massive.

Ford isn’t going anywhere, and their warranty coverage for 100,000 lightnings that were sold with warranties aren’t going anywhere either.

 

[PrimeRisk]

They have to. That 10 year figure is a federal law.

What federal law is that? (Honest question, I've never heard of it)

 

[Jamchampnate]

What federal law is that? (Honest question, I've never heard of it)

Magnuson-Moss Act.

 

[PrimeRisk]

No federal law compels auto manufacturers to produce replacement parts for a specific number of years. However, two federal acts create specific obligations. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 governs consumer product warranties. This law does not force a manufacturer to offer a warranty, but if they do, they must be able to provide the necessary parts to fulfill that warranty’s terms. This means parts must be available for the duration of any written warranty.
A more direct requirement comes from the federal Clean Air Act. This law mandates that manufacturers produce and make available certain components related to a vehicle’s emissions control system. These parts must be available for a specific period, which is for the duration of the emissions warranty. For many emissions components, such as the catalytic converter, engine control unit, and onboard diagnostic devices, this warranty period is set at 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever comes first.

Well, I'm confident that Ford will be able to meet the Emissions Control portion seeing as we don't have any, but the rest is going to be a dice roll. Yes, there is a standard 8-year/100,000-mile Electric Vehicle Component Warranty, but if it isn't cost effective for Ford, they'll just say the part is no longer manufactured and will pay you depreciated value for the truck.

My last truck before the Lightning was a 2000 Dodge...24 Years and a Bazillion miles. My Lightning's body is likely to match that, but the first powertrain issue outside of warranty will likely be the death of it.

 

[Maineiac12]

What federal law is that? (Honest question, I've never heard of it)

I was slightly misinformed. They are required to support the vehicle for the entire warranty period so it would be 8/100k minimum (possibly more if you bought the Ford ESP). But lots of vehicles have been discontinued or replaced over the years and you can still get parts for them.

I have zero doubt that you’ll be able to get parts for a long time to come. I can still get parts for 20+ year old vehicles if I need them.

Software updates are my only concern here. Legacy auto has a habit of dropping support for software once a new model comes out so I’ll be curious to see if they change their tune in the long run or not.

 

[hturnerfamily]

I'd buy another in a heartbeat, in about 10 years... mine is still going strong... and will be even then...

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