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7. I know it is not a new complaint but who decided that a tall ipad-like tablet three inches higher than the dash was a good idea? Maybe I could hide things behind it along with the dust bunnies that are sure to collect there.

I own a Mach E with that screen in the middle. I was a bit hesitant about it until I saw it in person. It blends into the dash way better in person than it appears in pictures.

EVs are techy by nature, so tech kinda comes with the territory. that's what drew me to the Lightning and to purchase a Mach E.......YMMV
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I would like a “hunting/hiking/nature mode”. Basically, a way to turn off propulsion sounds for 30 minutes up to 25mph. I could arrive to a hunting/hiking area and drive back a mountain road without spooking all the animals on the way back to a trailhead.
 

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I would like a “hunting/hiking/nature mode”. Basically, a way to turn off propulsion sounds for 30 minutes up to 25mph. I could arrive to a hunting/hiking area and drive back a mountain road without spooking all the animals on the way back to a trailhead.
I think the propulsion sounds are optional... changed in the setting menu.

I saw the button to click it on/off during one of the videos...
 

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I think the propulsion sounds are optional... changed in the setting menu.

I saw the button to click it on/off during one of the videos...
I think there is a propulsion sound played inside the vehicle and then the pedestrian warning that is played outside the vehicle. I don't believe you can disable the pedestrian warning sound as this is a government mandated safety feature.
 

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I think there is a propulsion sound played inside the vehicle and then the pedestrian warning that is played outside the vehicle. I don't believe you can disable the pedestrian warning sound as this is a government mandated safety feature.
Exactly, people have been trying to get rid of it on the PowerBoost without much success. It's a safety thing so definitely not something they'll let you disable unfortunately.
 

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Exactly, people have been trying to get rid of it on the PowerBoost without much success. It's a safety thing so definitely not something they'll let you disable unfortunately.
It should be pretty simple to just unplug the speaker. 99% of people won't care about it. The rest will eventually get used to it. I imagine a few people felt the same way about having a chime when you leave your keys in or lights on.
 

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It should be pretty simple to just unplug the speaker. 99% of people won't care about it. The rest will eventually get used to it. I imagine a few people felt the same way about having a chime when you leave your keys in or lights on.
You can, but you then get errors on the screen every time you start the truck, it knows it’s disconnected.
 

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You can, but you then get errors on the screen every time you start the truck, it knows it’s disconnected.
People defeat emissions control devices and live with a check engine light on ?
 

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I was dead set on the Rivian until I thought about what happens if I need warranty repair. There isn't a Rivian dealer any where near me. There's 5 Ford dealers all within 20 miles of home. 4 of them are listed as authorized EV dealers.
I still expect to get the Rivian R1T. First, it wouldn't be my daily driver and if it needs anything, they flatbed it away and I drive the Hybrid. Having had 3 Teslas, I'd advise against an EV as your only vehicle or your daily driver. Also, if you just don't have time to compensate for the "startup" slowness of service, an EV is going to tax your patience.

I think Ford is unlike Rivian or Tesla. Of course that sounds like stating the obvious. But given Ford is almost a "startup" in selling EVs, I think the comparison is not simply "Ford knows how to build a million F-150s … Tesla is nowhere near that number for all their models combined." The rollout of the Bronco was/is apparently a cluster, the Mach-e, I don't know, but by the time the Lightning is in production, I'd like to think Ford will be on the A game and it will be like buying any F-150 … 1% will have problems and people like me will just get one, drive it 6800 miles with zero problems, drop it at the dealer for some upgrades and so far, not a rattle or a squeak.

The Rivian is much shorter 217x82x76 vs Lightning at 233x80x79 (LxWxH.) I've been around the Rivian in person and I'd size it as about equal to a Range Rover and their people said that was their primary reference point … it's not a full size half ton pickup … it's a luxury lifestyle statement. It's not replacing my tow vehicle, it replaces our Tesla Model X as the family activity mule. Anyway, the Rivian shows up this year, the Lightning maybe '22 or '23. The Rivian is a niche EV, the Lightning is a broad market appeal.

I'm surprised to see reports that Ford will build 80K units for the first year … I would have thought there's far more demand.
 

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3. I do like the throw back radio antenna but why put it in front of the windshield. They could easily move it to the back of the cab out of my line of sight.
The benefit to the antenna (so I’m told) is that it whacks the top of low parking garages first, and let’s you know to mash the brake before you turn your $89K truck into a convertible!
 

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I'm surprised to see reports that Ford will build 80K units for the first year … I would have thought there's far more demand.
I believe that 80k is the current max capacity of the factory where they are building the Lightning. They may actually produce less than that the first year. I have yet to see anything that states actual numbers for the first year, just that it will be limited production. I have a feeling demand for this truck will outstrip supply for many years especially as people begin to see their neighbors with one and realize how much better it is than the ICE version.
 

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I believe that 80k is the current max capacity of the factory where they are building the Lightning. They may actually produce less than that the first year. I have yet to see anything that states actual numbers for the first year, just that it will be limited production. I have a feeling demand for this truck will outstrip supply for many years especially as people begin to see their neighbors with one and realize how much better it is than the ICE version.

Also don't forget battery constraints. Ford needs to deliver a number of evs, continue developing and testing, and have extra batteries for replacement parts. They take time to produce
 
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Welp. If it really is late 2022, early 2023 for delivery I may have to look to something else. I'm not looking to drive my Tundra for another year or more. I wonder when order books open if they will give any realistic timeframes on delivery then.
 

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Welp. If it really is late 2022, early 2023 for delivery I may have to look to something else. I'm not looking to drive my Tundra for another year or more. I wonder when order books open if they will give any realistic timeframes on delivery then.
Personally, I'd keep driving my current vehicle unless there was something major wrong that just didn't make sense to repair. Trying to get a vehicle in the next year or so is going to be rough as it appears there is no sign of the chip shortage letting up soon. I live in the Dallas area and before covid, the typical discount on a pickup was $10k off MSRP maybe a bit more or a bit less depending on configuration. Now, good luck paying MSRP, more likely you'll pay several thousand over. I don't see this getting better in the next 6 months to a year.
 
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That's a good idea if they can make it work. Like, telling people, "hey, the hardtops are the holdup, want to switch without losing your spot?" I assume.
#9 makes me think that tone is shifting from early 2022 to mid 2022. For most of us, it will likely be fall/early 2023.
Time to adjust the plans.
Unrelated to anything important, but I personally enjoy how many others must also have a Bronco reservation.
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