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The dreaded amber light came on the Ford Charging Station for about the fourth time in just over three years. I should note that my charging unit is mounted outside, exposed to the elements and only modestly protected from rain and snow. I should also note that we are entering week two of frigid temperatures here in the Hudson Valley.

The first time the unit failed, it was the warmer season. I simply returned the unit to the dealer and they quickly replaced it under warranty.

The second time, also moderate weather, I figured out that it was water infiltration in the 240v/110v connector port, that is the part where the interchangeable plugs connect to the unit. The repair was easy enough, dry it out, wipe it down, coat the inside with dielectric oil and reinstall it. I also added some electrical tape to cover the seams around the 240 adapter to eliminate or at least reduce the amount of rain getting in. That worked for about a year, but some how water got in anyway.

This third time it was far less traumatic, as the cause and likely fix were evident. I removed the adapter, wiped everything down and this time tried it without dielectric oil. I also more carefully taped up the seams. All good.

The fourth and most recent event was slightly different. Instead of just going amber (which it also did and which usually simply slowed charging to a trickle), this time a "Charging Error" message popped up on the Ford app. It would not allow a charge at all. Coincidently, a Rivian neighbor stopped by during this deep freeze and said his charging app would not allow charging to commence unless he fooled the vehicle into a preparing for fast charging mode (The Rivian app sounds more sophisticated than the Ford app!). I thought the Ford might have been experiencing the same thing. However, I could not find the "prepare for fast charging" mode on the Ford app or dash. Also, no amount of tinkering with the app or plugging and unplugging the charging station made a difference. Instead, a message appeared on the dash to go find a fast-charging station (by the way, the battery was already almost 80%. I was seeking to boost to 100% to prepare for a trip). So, first, I checked the seal created (granted, it's only electrical tape) and it seemed unbreached. Next, I took my trip and stopped on the way home at a fast-charging station. In case it was that same as the Rivian quirk, I tried to home charge one more time but got the same error.

It was time to pursue the usual course of action. I brought the charging station into the house. Even on closer inspection, the electrical tape home seal seemed perfectly intact. After removing the tape, the 240 adapters would not budge. It was literally frozen, as in the entire inside was apparently encased in ice and, well......

A few minutes with a hair dryer at the low setting thawed things out and when the plug finally dislodged, it was drenched inside (with a few spots of ice remaining. Now I am wishing I took a picture!). Everything got wiped down and all the contacts were cleaned off with Q-Tips and clothes. I got it as dry as I could. A few minutes later, I noticed moisture had returned. After giving it a good shaking, it was evident that water was coming from inside the unit, from the bottom up, not the top down. An inspection of the unit showed no place where water could get in. After drying it out near the house radiator for another hour and a lot more shaking and wiping, I returned the unit to its usual perch and it charged the truck like a champ.

So, this long story is for a couple of reasons. First, if anyone knows how water is getting inside the unit, cover please post here, especially if you have ideas (other than placing the charging unit elsewhere or devising some kind of cover) on how to prevent or fix this. The second reason is for those of you who are having similar experiences and are in a panic because the warranty may have expired. Wipe, dry, maybe thaw, wipe and dry and reinstall is all it should take. Good luck.

One final thought. Is it possible or reasonable that some condensation is forming and gathering inside the unit and my sealing of the seal even more is preventing evaporation? Are there any other explanations for how water got in through someplace other than the top? Thanks for reading. I look forward to reactions and responses.

.PS.: Three years and five months. 28,330 miles on the odometer. Other than this bothersome charging issue and a few early post-purchase tweaks, ownership has been amazing. Winter range is a pain, but it's difficult to think of any other concerns. This is one of the favorite vehicles I ever owned (at least until someone sells a reasonably priced EV Convertible!!).
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The unit you are describing is the mobile charger, not the Connected Charge Station.
There are many reports of problems with these by people who use them as their primary charger. They’re just not very robust.

I think condensation is a likely culprit for the moisture presence. I‘d suggest buying a more robust EVSE.
 

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The thing is a POS and should only be used as emergency. It sucks in the heat. Had one from my Mach e and lighting and both sucked butt crack, and got amber light with in days of use and can’t hang over 90 degree ambient temperatures. Install an emporia charger and don’t look back.
 

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Agree with @Maquis , the additional moisture was from being in the warm moist air of your home, while the EVSE was still chilled from being outside, give it several hours to warm up and the moisture would evaporate.

Time for a better EVSE.
 

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Maybe drill a drain hole in the bottom of the case?
 

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Keep the EVSE in a second water tight container with enough airflow to help prevent overheating. (not an issue right now!).

Get all the water out of the inside with a dessicant (like rice or even a diaper/pet urine pad). Then use a good quality silicon gasket seal when you close up... Silicone caulk any of the inputs and outputs from the inside. Some desiccant packets on the inside of the EVSE couldn't hurt too.

Just keep it dry, closed in a box and maybe even a cheap heater. Look up exterior spigot and waterpipe heaters on amazon. Cost about 12 bucks for 3 to 6 linear feet and they are thermostat controlled so they only kick on when it's cold. Keep the EVSE warm and dry and hopefully you will never have to see the inside of that thing again!
 

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Finally gave up on Ford's Failed Worthless EV Support Slugs, bought a different charger.
 

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The dreaded amber light came on the Ford Charging Station for about the fourth time in just over three years.
You are talking about the Ford Mobile Power Cord, I assume that because you mention the "240v adapter."

As other have said, they do not seem to hold up with everyday use. And I;m not sure they are weather proof either?

This is what seems to happen - the 240V dongle (adapter) does not seat well and so corrosion can happen and then hot spots and:

Ford F-150 Lightning Ford Charging Station Woes and Whews! IMG_2158-discoloration overheatin


And ultimately failure.

So like others have said, get a better EVSE made for outdoor use if it must be outdoors, and have it installed by an electrician so that it is weather/moisture tight.

Or have the EVSE mounted inside your garage like I did before getting a FCSP installed:

Ford F-150 Lightning Ford Charging Station Woes and Whews! FMPC mounted inside garag


Run the J1772 with or without a J1772 extension rated for the correct amps (if another FMPC then 30A) through a pass through panel (like below):

https://www.amazon.com/Cord-Storage...eywords=RV+access+panel&qid=1770087041&sr=8-7

Ford F-150 Lightning Ford Charging Station Woes and Whews! LCGP RV Access Door-14-29 Amazon


or an under the garage door cable protector.



https://www.amazon.com/SplashNColor-Protector-Compatible-Vehicles-Accessories/dp/B09F13GL3D

Ford F-150 Lightning Ford Charging Station Woes and Whews! EV garage pass through
 

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My mobile cord has been pretty good so far, but it's early. That fact didn't stop me from ordering an OpenEVSE.
 
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I had to use the mobile charger for a month and a half until the FCSP was installed, never had any issue. Hmm, .. luck of the draw? pun intended.
 
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I had to use the mobile charger for a month and a half until the FCSP was installed, never had any issue. Hmm, .. luck of the draw? pun intended.
Just my impression but they seem to have failed when used daily within 2 years or so - replaceable under the 3 yr b-to-b warranty.
 

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Although always used indoors (garage) and on a 120v outlet, my mobile charger has worked well for nearly three years now. We charge the wife’s EV6 with it. She puts very miles on in an average day so it keeps her to spec 80% pretty well.
 

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The dreaded amber light came on the Ford Charging Station for about the fourth time in just over three years. I should note that my charging unit is mounted outside, exposed to the elements and only modestly protected from rain and snow. I should also note that we are entering week two of frigid temperatures here in the Hudson Valley.

The first time the unit failed, it was the warmer season. I simply returned the unit to the dealer and they quickly replaced it under warranty.

The second time, also moderate weather, I figured out that it was water infiltration in the 240v/110v connector port, that is the part where the interchangeable plugs connect to the unit. The repair was easy enough, dry it out, wipe it down, coat the inside with dielectric oil and reinstall it. I also added some electrical tape to cover the seams around the 240 adapter to eliminate or at least reduce the amount of rain getting in. That worked for about a year, but some how water got in anyway.

This third time it was far less traumatic, as the cause and likely fix were evident. I removed the adapter, wiped everything down and this time tried it without dielectric oil. I also more carefully taped up the seams. All good.

The fourth and most recent event was slightly different. Instead of just going amber (which it also did and which usually simply slowed charging to a trickle), this time a "Charging Error" message popped up on the Ford app. It would not allow a charge at all. Coincidently, a Rivian neighbor stopped by during this deep freeze and said his charging app would not allow charging to commence unless he fooled the vehicle into a preparing for fast charging mode (The Rivian app sounds more sophisticated than the Ford app!). I thought the Ford might have been experiencing the same thing. However, I could not find the "prepare for fast charging" mode on the Ford app or dash. Also, no amount of tinkering with the app or plugging and unplugging the charging station made a difference. Instead, a message appeared on the dash to go find a fast-charging station (by the way, the battery was already almost 80%. I was seeking to boost to 100% to prepare for a trip). So, first, I checked the seal created (granted, it's only electrical tape) and it seemed unbreached. Next, I took my trip and stopped on the way home at a fast-charging station. In case it was that same as the Rivian quirk, I tried to home charge one more time but got the same error.

It was time to pursue the usual course of action. I brought the charging station into the house. Even on closer inspection, the electrical tape home seal seemed perfectly intact. After removing the tape, the 240 adapters would not budge. It was literally frozen, as in the entire inside was apparently encased in ice and, well......

A few minutes with a hair dryer at the low setting thawed things out and when the plug finally dislodged, it was drenched inside (with a few spots of ice remaining. Now I am wishing I took a picture!). Everything got wiped down and all the contacts were cleaned off with Q-Tips and clothes. I got it as dry as I could. A few minutes later, I noticed moisture had returned. After giving it a good shaking, it was evident that water was coming from inside the unit, from the bottom up, not the top down. An inspection of the unit showed no place where water could get in. After drying it out near the house radiator for another hour and a lot more shaking and wiping, I returned the unit to its usual perch and it charged the truck like a champ.

So, this long story is for a couple of reasons. First, if anyone knows how water is getting inside the unit, cover please post here, especially if you have ideas (other than placing the charging unit elsewhere or devising some kind of cover) on how to prevent or fix this. The second reason is for those of you who are having similar experiences and are in a panic because the warranty may have expired. Wipe, dry, maybe thaw, wipe and dry and reinstall is all it should take. Good luck.

One final thought. Is it possible or reasonable that some condensation is forming and gathering inside the unit and my sealing of the seal even more is preventing evaporation? Are there any other explanations for how water got in through someplace other than the top? Thanks for reading. I look forward to reactions and responses.

.PS.: Three years and five months. 28,330 miles on the odometer. Other than this bothersome charging issue and a few early post-purchase tweaks, ownership has been amazing. Winter range is a pain, but it's difficult to think of any other concerns. This is one of the favorite vehicles I ever owned (at least until someone sells a reasonably priced EV Convertible!!).
Think I figured out my Amber Light thing. My charger is the pro set for 48 Amps. My charger would only fault after it was 100% charged and Cold outside. It would also not pre condition the vehicle without faulting. So I thought maybe the precondition or temperature current my look like an overcharge condition or possibility to the Charger so it would Amber Light Check out. So I set my charge to 95% instead of 100 and Not a single fault out in over 4 days with temps around 0 F. Charges to 95% then in maintenance or pre condition without fault.
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