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How is this possible?

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I take it you're charging on 120v since it only added 4.7kw. You might have added about 5 or 6 miles. That increase might be reflected when you power the truck on.

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I'm guessing it's not that cold in SW VA? Subfreezing temps can cause a lot of energy to warm up the battery which can take a while on 120. The numbers in the app can be hit or miss though. Seems to be a coin flip on something not being right. Can try refreshing or restarting the app.
 
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I've tried restarting. It's about 44 degrees here. I started charging just after having driven a few miles and up a bit of a hill so it may be that, as the battery cooled the indicated/added range just compensated for the range lost by the battery temperature falling. I suppose that could explain it. I saw that the night before as well bumming a little charge from the timeshare.
 
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It just changed from blanks to 0 miles added.
 

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This new app is quirky with data reporting on the energy tab, try switching views from Vehicle tab, or Service tab back to Energy, that usually triggers a data update.
 

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Miles are not added, kWh are. The miles are a guess, like the GOM. If the temperature dropped from when you started charging, I could see the guesstimate showing no miles gained with just a few kWh added. I never bother looking at miles, only the kWh.
 

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It just changed from blanks to 0 miles added.
Judging by this I'd be inclined to say you those first 4 kwh to warm the battery and that it's not a bug. 44 is not freezing but it is only just above the ideal temperature to charge a lithium ion pack.
 

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Judging by this I'd be inclined to say you those first 4 kwh to warm the battery and that it's not a bug. 44 is not freezing but it is only just above the ideal temperature to charge a lithium ion pack.
No. The kWh displayed are net to the battery.
 

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I wouldn't put much stock in that number either since some have had it show 200kWh+ added. Has it actually been confirmed that it's calculating what was actually added to the battery? The app always seems to show more than what I get using the difference in energy to empty in Car Scanner.


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It's charging normally now. I feel certain the battery was warm when I started and, at first, it cooled fast enough to reduce range by the amount the charge was adding. It may have even lost at a higher rate than the charge but all it can display is dashes in that situation. Once it displayed "0", it added range as usual.

I suspect it will do the same with the level 2 at home but the warming with the charge itself and the faster charge will mask the situation I see with the little level 1.
 

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It's charging normally now. I feel certain the battery was warm when I started and, at first, it cooled fast enough to reduce range by the amount the charge was adding. It may have even lost at a higher rate than the charge but all it can display is dashes in that situation. Once it displayed "0", it added range as usual.

I suspect it will do the same with the level 2 at home but the warming with the charge itself and the faster charge will mask the situation I see with the little level 1.
This is exactly what I suspect, but I only relatively recently bought my truck and being in southwest louisiana it hasn't gotten cold enough for me to say definitively one way or another. It should, at least in theory, always warm the pack before charging but do it much faster on a level 2 charger. Maybe in a few months I'll find out first hand.
 
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This will be my first winter as well.
 

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For those of us with cold winters, L2 is a must. I expect you are just topping up at work on L1 and charging with L2 at home? Good option but L1 is pretty lame in cold winters :sunglasses:
 

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What I noticed is that the new app has a problem, it does not do a live update. you would have to close the app and open it again, or wait to the end of the charge cycle and enter in the app again
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