Comma AI self driver assistant

[UncleTony]

You can still force your fingerprint manually, but on the C4 it has to be done from the sunnlylink website, no ability to do it locally on device.

Assuming you can just force it to whatever lighting models are already there instead of having to add a fingerprint for the 25 specifically though?
Maybe I misunderstood what he’s asking, but I took it as him saying there is not an option for the 25.

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[Ajzride]

Assuming you can just force it to whatever lighting models are already there instead of having to add a fingerprint for the 25 specifically though?
Maybe I misunderstood what he’s asking, but I took it as him saying there is not an option for the 25.

oh, yea. Just choose any lightning. They are all the same as far as comma is concerned.

 

[Balu]

2025 here and runs great on bluepilot, as far as sunnypilot goes is the lightning supported now? May need to SSH in and add your own fingerprint. I know with Bluepilot the 2025 fingerprint wasn't there so I added it manually.

How did you get a fingerprint to upload? I just used the sunny pilot pairing interface to select “Ford F-150 Lightning 2022-23”. Seems to work. Should I do something else for my ‘25?

Reading comments above. Sounds like I’m fine.. leave as is.

 

[UncleTony]

How did you get a fingerprint to upload? I just used the sunny pilot pairing interface to select “Ford F-150 Lightning 2022-23”. Seems to work. Should I do something else for my ‘25?

It will work set as a 22-23. Someone just needs to put in a PR to update it to include the 24s and 25s. It won’t affect how it controls or drives. Just won’t automatically fingerprint.

 

[chriserx]

How did you get a fingerprint to upload? I just used the sunny pilot pairing interface to select “Ford F-150 Lightning 2022-23”. Seems to work. Should I do something else for my ‘25?

Reading comments above. Sounds like I’m fine.. leave as is.

Yeah you should be good, pretty sure you don't lose anything by selecting manually.

But to answer your question, I logged into github, created a separate ssh key, uploaded it, and enabled github ssh access. @Ajzride implied that it no longer works so ymmv

 

[Balu]

Model - what model do people use for the lightning. I’m currently on Default with Bluepilot (bp-c4-basic), and read that WD40 was great, but then it looks like it might be from 2024?

 

[UncleTony]

Model - what model do people use for the lightning. I’m currently on Default with Bluepilot (bp-c4-basic), and read that WD40 was great, but then it looks like it might be from 2024?

Model age isn’t a huge indicator of quality. I preferred FoF liquid crystal on my lightning. But there may be a new recommendation now.

 

[B177y]

Model - what model do people use for the lightning. I’m currently on Default with Bluepilot (bp-c4-basic), and read that WD40 was great, but then it looks like it might be from 2024?

Someone from either Discord or the F150gen14forum.com recommended the North Dakota model, another "legacy" model like WD40. I tried North Dakota after using WD40 for a long time and I like ND better. It's super smooth like WD but for me it stays centered much better. WD40 would always bias towards the right side of the road for me. Give ND a try while you're experimenting.

 

[Ajzride]

Comma’s focus for the last 18 months has been better end to end control (urban driving) for their core vehicle demographic, small SUVs and sedans. Control of large heavy vehicles like trucks has actually gotten worse. Couple that with Ford’s ADAS system not being designed for urban driving and that is why so many F150 drivers run older models.

in order of preference I use:

WD40
filet o fish liquid crystal
North nevada v2

 

[branden]

Comma’s focus for the last 18 months has been better end to end control (urban driving) for their core vehicle demographic, small SUVs and sedans. Control of large heavy vehicles like trucks has actually gotten worse. Couple that with Ford’s ADAS system not being designed for urban driving and that is why so many F150 drivers run older models.

in order of preference I use:

WD40
filet o fish liquid crystal
North nevada v2

Any reasons for using 1 vs another model?

 

[B177y]

Any reasons for using 1 vs another model?

Try them and see what works best for your use. Some work better for mostly freeway, others are better in cities. Mostly comes down to personal preference and which model works best with your truck or car setup. Variables like modifications, mounting location of Comma, suspension, tires, etc. can all change driving behavior. Each model will handle that slightly differently.

My go-to for my Lightning are North Dakota and WD40, both under "Legacy Models" in the model chooser menu.

 

[Ajzride]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What Bill said.

Any reasons for using 1 vs another model?

 

[EVO]

It's my understanding that the 2025 Ford EVs use an encrypted data buse and aren't compatible with Comma AI. There are a number of threads and the Comma forum that reference it.

That is a correct statement for the F150 however, The lightning Ev`s do not have an encrypted bus. All lightnings are compatible with coma Ai as long as you have the proper hardware.

 

[galstaf]

That is a correct statement for the F150 however, The lightning Ev`s do not have an encrypted bus. All lightnings are compatible with coma Ai as long as you have the proper hardware.

Out of curiosity, why does Comma not list the later model years as being compatible? It seems it would be in their interest to list them and sell more units.

 

[Ajzride]

Out of curiosity, why does Comma not list the later model years as being compatible? It seems it would be in their interest to list them and sell more units.

Comma lists the vehicles that are compatible on their website. They list 2021-2023 ICE F150. No other variant of F150 is officially compatible. Lightning is not officially supported due to the canbus issues.

If you are talking about the vehicle selector after the software is installed, that is completely unrelated to what comma "supports". That is literally just a string of code that is human-friendly. The code really cares about FORD_F150_LIGHT_MK1, but no one wants to choose that in the menu. That string which says 2022-2023 waswritten in 2023, and since the fork that supports lightning is maintained 100% by volunteers, we haven't had time to update it.

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